Results 1 to 15 of 42

Thread: What is your take on the Wall Street protests?

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Kansas, USA
    Posts
    20,902
    I don't know. I wonder if it's just frustration over not only corprate greed but greed in Congress too. It seems they are all working for the rich while the middle america and the lower classes just get worse off every day. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
    No matter what anyone does, someone some where will be offended some how!!!!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    MY BLESSINGS:
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Grandma (RB), Chester, Angel, Chip

    Leonardo (RB), Luke (RB), Winnie, Chuck,

    Frankie

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    WHERE YOU ARE IS WHERE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE!!!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Alaska: Where the odds are good, but the goods are odd.
    Posts
    5,701
    I'm not sure I understand what they're protesting either.

    I asked on another board and got slammed with "Don't you read the papers!?!" and various vulgarities about what a stupid person I am. But, one said it was to protest the bailouts given to companies back in 2008.

    Okay, so I asked -- "So they are protesting the President and Congress voting (without evidently reading the bill) to bail out corporate America because some companies were "too big to fail".

    Well, I was called all kinds of awful names saying that it had nothing to do with that.................But, still no one can explain to me what they feel is the problem and what needs to be fixed.
    Ask your vet about microchipping. ~ It could have saved Kuhio's life.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    8,585
    I'm not sure what they hope to accomplish. I did hear a short segment on CNN the other day. CNN was talking to a recent college grad who was unable to find a job, so he was protesting. It was not specified what his major was, but after two minutes of listening to him, I knew why he couldn't find anything. He couldn't put a complete sentence together without you know, like, and other assorted fillers.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    South Hero Vermont
    Posts
    4,746

    Failing banks

    Quite a few banks were allowed to fail. Probably the smaller ones - ones the big shots have cared less about. I surely would not have wanted a total meltdown of our banking system. That would have been deadly.

    I suspect these protestors are going after Wall Street and big Corps. because they can. Bank regulators and the people responsible for setting up the banking and investing rules and regulations need to be hung out to dry.

    Long ago, I worked for a big bank in PA. I worked in the corporate accounting section and handled the paperwork for MBS investments. (MBS = Mortgage Backed Securities). Sound familiar. Back then, there were regulators crawling all over us - making sure we had good collateral for borrowings against the mortgages. We had auditors in our offices nearly every day, making sure we weren't screwing around. Somewhere, somehow, all that must have stopped or maybe the regulators weren't caring much about what was happening. Lately, there was no regulation against selling bad mortgages to investors, I suppose. I never did understand how the banks/investors/borrowers/appraisers got away with such outrageous activity.

    Do these protestors plan to take over Wall Street? What do they want? Do they think the higher ups in the Corp world will reduce the salaries and perks and give them the money?

    There has always been a gap in earnings between the highly paid and the middle class. I think the gap is widening and it hurts. The Corps are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. How do we change that? Greed is greed.

    If you want to talk greed, how about Hollywood and the money the big movie moguls make for each lousy movie. Millions. Why not start protesting in front of the movie stars' houses.

    How about the sporting world. I see the dollar amounts to the contracts being handed out. Outrageous. Let's protest them. Let's NOT go to or watch the sporting events. That's how you protest.

    I just don't see them organized enough to get any one point across! They are pissed but aren't we all!!

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Alaska: Where the odds are good, but the goods are odd.
    Posts
    5,701
    Quote Originally Posted by sasvermont View Post
    ...
    If you want to talk greed, how about Hollywood and the money the big movie moguls make for each lousy movie. Millions. Why not start protesting in front of the movie stars' houses...

    And the hypocrisy of a couple of the movie stars who have shown up there to "support the movement"! They are cheered like they are one of the masses. Give me a break!

    I'm soooooooooooo sick of these celebrities flying all over the world on private jets and then preaching to me about how we're killing the planet with fossil fuel! Of course, these are the same ones who put out exercise and health tips who keep their weight down by smoking.........

    But, I digress. If anyone can explain to me what their goal is, I'm all ears. Maybe they just want to show their frustration with this whole mess. I can understand that. But, if this is another -- take money away from one guy because YOU think they have enough -- to give it to someone who didn't earn it, well, then I think that's GREED!
    Ask your vet about microchipping. ~ It could have saved Kuhio's life.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    8,166
    I believe the world is in a bit of trouble with this sort of thing, and something needs to be done. The gap between the "haves" and the "have nots" is widening every day. On one hand you have people who struggle to make ends meet and on the other you have people who make SO much money that they wouldn't be able to spend it in 10 lifetimes.
    My take on the protesters, is that they want to do something about the ever widening gap.


    "I'm Back !!"

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    Copenhagen, Denmark - GMT+1
    Posts
    15,952
    Quote Originally Posted by wombat2u2004 View Post
    I believe the world is in a bit of trouble with this sort of thing, and something needs to be done. The gap between the "haves" and the "have nots" is widening every day. On one hand you have people who struggle to make ends meet and on the other you have people who make SO much money that they wouldn't be able to spend it in 10 lifetimes.
    My take on the protesters, is that they want to do something about the ever widening gap.
    This is exactly what's happening and people have had enough!! The financial crisis is not the ordinary working class person's fault. A lot have been laid off over the past few years, and more will follow. Once you're past fifty, it's almost impossible to find a job.

    Like SAS says, the banks are having a meltdown. They have been too greedy. Stockholders are losing their money - however, I don't have much sympathy with them, they have been trying to get money from doing absolutely nothing, except speculating. I certainly understand the protests!

    In Denmark, politicians get a pension from the state and they get another pension as well. Some get more than $10.000 a month for sitting on their a§§es, which taxpayers pay.

    An article from a newspaper:

    The protests against the global financial sector is now moving towards Europe. In Denmark, people are ready to go to the streets to demonstrate against the big banks' greed and capitalism in general. A Danish movement that calls themselves Occupy Denmark, invites on Facebook people to demonstrate Saturday. 15 to 18 at City Hall Square in Copenhagen. This is done in solidarity with similar demonstrations around the world.

    In London, more than 3,500 people volunteered for a similar demonstration on Saturday. Stream is ready to support the Unity List Finance and Industry spokesman Frank Aaen says he is ready to support and assist a Danish citizen movement who rebel against the financial sector. I would also like to help raise some of the problems, "says Frank river. "It is grotesque that while we have helped banks with billion warranties, and they simultaneously before allowed to borrow at low interest rates in the National Bank, then, thousands of Danes sacked and punished with higher interest rates," he says.
    Last edited by Randi; 10-16-2011 at 05:15 AM.



    "I don't know which weapons will be used in the third World war, but in the fourth, it will be sticks and stones" --- Albert Einstein.


  8. #8
    I agree. What can they hope to gain? They should be out working instead of sitting in the rain. Or perhaps getting together and trying to figure out a way to fix the problem instead of just standing around.
    Obama tried to regulate the banks but the Republicans shot down the bill.
    He had to bail out the auto companies, otherwise GM and Chrysler would now be gone. Imagine those two companies gone, what that would have done to the economy.
    As for the bankers they had the Republicans in their back pocket and that is why they shot down Obama's bill which would have regulated all of these charges. Now the banks can do what they want and we are at their mercy.
    The people need to truly read and understand what the law makers are saying and how they vote and act.
    Not voting on looks or because my dad always voted Democrat or because he is pro-life. One needs to look at ALL the issues and how they affect our daily lives.
    I have a friend who did not vote for Obama because he is pro-choice.
    Well no president has changed the law on that in 38 years.
    What will happen, I don't think anyone knows. Lets just hope that for once we as a nation can put aside or petty differences and do what is best for most, no one can do best for all but for most we need to try and try harder. What are we leaving for our children?
    We will all be moving in with them because we can't afford to live on SS. That in itself should be motivation enough to do something.
    Quote Originally Posted by sasvermont View Post
    Quite a few banks were allowed to fail. Probably the smaller ones - ones the big shots have cared less about. I surely would not have wanted a total meltdown of our banking system. That would have been deadly.

    I suspect these protestors are going after Wall Street and big Corps. because they can. Bank regulators and the people responsible for setting up the banking and investing rules and regulations need to be hung out to dry.

    Long ago, I worked for a big bank in PA. I worked in the corporate accounting section and handled the paperwork for MBS investments. (MBS = Mortgage Backed Securities). Sound familiar. Back then, there were regulators crawling all over us - making sure we had good collateral for borrowings against the mortgages. We had auditors in our offices nearly every day, making sure we weren't screwing around. Somewhere, somehow, all that must have stopped or maybe the regulators weren't caring much about what was happening. Lately, there was no regulation against selling bad mortgages to investors, I suppose. I never did understand how the banks/investors/borrowers/appraisers got away with such outrageous activity.

    Do these protestors plan to take over Wall Street? What do they want? Do they think the higher ups in the Corp world will reduce the salaries and perks and give them the money?

    There has always been a gap in earnings between the highly paid and the middle class. I think the gap is widening and it hurts. The Corps are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. How do we change that? Greed is greed.

    If you want to talk greed, how about Hollywood and the money the big movie moguls make for each lousy movie. Millions. Why not start protesting in front of the movie stars' houses.

    How about the sporting world. I see the dollar amounts to the contracts being handed out. Outrageous. Let's protest them. Let's NOT go to or watch the sporting events. That's how you protest.

    I just don't see them organized enough to get any one point across! They are pissed but aren't we all!!

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Midwest
    Posts
    3,928
    Blog Entries
    3
    Quote Originally Posted by Marigold2 View Post
    I agree. What can they hope to gain? They should be out working instead of sitting in the rain. Or perhaps getting together and trying to figure out a way to fix the problem instead of just standing around.
    Obama tried to regulate the banks but the Republicans shot down the bill.
    He had to bail out the auto companies, otherwise GM and Chrysler would now be gone. Imagine those two companies gone, what that would have done to the economy.
    As for the bankers they had the Republicans in their back pocket and that is why they shot down Obama's bill which would have regulated all of these charges. Now the banks can do what they want and we are at their mercy.
    The people need to truly read and understand what the law makers are saying and how they vote and act.
    Not voting on looks or because my dad always voted Democrat or because he is pro-life. One needs to look at ALL the issues and how they affect our daily lives.
    I have a friend who did not vote for Obama because he is pro-choice.
    Well no president has changed the law on that in 38 years.
    What will happen, I don't think anyone knows. Lets just hope that for once we as a nation can put aside or petty differences and do what is best for most, no one can do best for all but for most we need to try and try harder. What are we leaving for our children?
    We will all be moving in with them because we can't afford to live on SS. That in itself should be motivation enough to do something.
    With all that said it would be really nice if EVERYONE could have a good paying job they really liked where they are treated fairly, with health benefits, a retirement plan, a modest affordable house to live in, 3 squares a day & a little cash left over to help keep the economy going. That isn't asking to much is it?

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    8,166
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonny View Post
    With all that said it would be really nice if EVERYONE could have a good paying job they really liked where they are treated fairly, with health benefits, a retirement plan, a modest affordable house to live in, 3 squares a day & a little cash left over to help keep the economy going. That isn't asking to much is it?
    Good idea.
    But I need a private beach, can I have one of those to ???


    "I'm Back !!"

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Kentucky, LAND OF THE EASILY AMUSED
    Posts
    25,224
    Quote Originally Posted by Grace View Post
    He couldn't put a complete sentence together without you know, like, and other assorted fillers.
    Dude, you just hate like the people that are out there trying to like get ahead in the world.



    -------------------

    Most of the college kids are under the impression that a sheepskin guarantees a 'good' paying job.

    The days of 'starting in the mail room and working your way up the ladder' are long gone.

    They have no sense of WORKING for paycheck.

    That's part of the "Go on line and get a degree" world we live in.

    No one want to work to get ahead, they think that sitting in front of the idiot box and taking a test makes them qualified.

    Effin morons.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    8,166
    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    No one want to work to get ahead, they think that sitting in front of the idiot box and taking a test makes them qualified.
    Yeah, but I've been on the virtual farm on Facebook for a couple of years now. I have 3 goats, a pig and a row of cabbages.
    I am now a farmer.


    "I'm Back !!"

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Location
    Windham, Vermont, USA
    Posts
    40,862
    I think that until they get a coherent message together other than "we are unhappy" I don't see what good they can do. Each group has its own slogan, or complaint, but I have not heard much for ideas for solutions.
    I've Been Frosted

Similar Threads

  1. AJ protests!
    By Muggzy and julia in forum Today's Cat
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 11-18-2011, 08:40 PM
  2. Funny Signs From Occupy Wall Street
    By lizbud in forum Dog House
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 11-04-2011, 08:45 PM
  3. Protests in Iran
    By Hellow in forum Dog House
    Replies: 24
    Last Post: 06-30-2009, 10:31 PM
  4. Replies: 1
    Last Post: 10-11-2008, 12:29 PM
  5. Amy cat protests
    By wayne0214 in forum Cat Behavior
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 05-10-2002, 10:40 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Copyright © 2001-2013 Pet of the Day.com