Obama Ends The Ban On Gays In The Military

**Lady's Human** · 07-24-2011, 08:18 PM

Asiel, as I was saying, it's a technical non-issue, but what happens within the military in reality is a very different situation.

**Catty1** · 07-24-2011, 08:26 PM

It may be legal and look good on paper...but many people will get beaten and worse.

Homophobia exists in the civilian world too...and every so often there is a news report of a horrid assault (putting it mildly).

Yes, it's a progressive and good idea. I bet many gay and lesbian people will still stay in the closet while serving in the military. Best to focus on one enemy.

**Asiel** · 07-24-2011, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by catty1

it may be legal and look good on paper...but many people will get beaten and worse.

Homophobia exists in the civilian world too...and every so often there is a news report of a horrid assault (putting it mildly).

Yes, it's a progressive and good idea. I bet many gay and lesbian people will still stay in the closet while serving in the military. Best to focus on one enemy.

bingo !!!!!!!!

**Asiel** · 07-24-2011, 08:30 PM

I do know that . But Canadians in general are not as tolerant as the painted picture shown here. Can't say someone didn't try to avert this, too bad it fell through. To each his own, just a lot of crap to me, not worth the discussion.
Especially when it's all been copied and pasted from other sources.

**NicoleLJ** · 07-24-2011, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Asiel

Especially when it's all been copied and pasted from other sources.

There is nothing wrong with copying and pasting from other sources when you are providing info for questions asked. Example: When I was asked Canada's view on Gays in the military. I knew some would not take my word for it. So I provided a link to the history along with the information. That way they could read it for themselves with no need of a he said she said.

**wombat2u2004** · 07-24-2011, 10:42 PM

Nicole, why do you support gays in the military ????

**NicoleLJ** · 07-24-2011, 10:54 PM

Because I believe in equality. I can admit that if you had asked me if I supported Gays and equality 2 yrs ago that I would have said no. If asked why my only arguement was that it was agianst my religion. Even saying it left a bad taste in my mouth. Doug and many other helped me to see how prejudice my views were. I fought it because I didn't want to think that the church I was raised to believe was the one true church could be wrong. But they are and were.

Prejudism does not just affect people of color, religion, race and such. It can affect everyone. Even disable people have to deal with it too. Doug asked me yesterday when I was discussing this issue with him, what the difference is if a gay man, a woman, colored person, straight man or so on were to rescue another soldier on a field of battle. The answer is there is no difference. Would a wounded soldier refuse their aid because of the person religion? Color? Sex? Sexual orientation? No. They can still do all the same things required. They just are different in some way or another and there is nothing wrong with that. So if there is nothing wrong with them being different then they should all be treated equally. They should have the same rights and freedoms as everyone else esspecailly since they are putting their life on the line to defend their country.

**Marigold2** · 07-24-2011, 11:55 PM

I am so proud of our President. Like Lincoln he feels alll men should be treated equally. Black, white, gay or straight.

These precious young children, men and women are risking their lives to keep us and the world safe.
They are our sons and daughters, our brothers and nieces.

Each one is a hero, each one an American.

**Lady's Human** · 07-25-2011, 01:08 AM

Yeay progressivism.

To hell with the fallout of the declaration.

Again, glad I'm retired so I don't have to deal with the fallout of this mess, which will be far worse than the fallout of allowing women into combat support units.