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    AMEN RICHARD!!!!

    I saw that guy on tv that told airport security "Touch my junk, and I'll have you arrested!"

    I'm with you. You don't like it, WALK!!! What I don't get is the waiver of children. A guy was caught with a bomb in his freaking SHOE!!! What's to stop them from making a "mule" out of their children in an effort to kill more people??? And why DON'T they have the same kind of security at bus stations and train stations??? I still think they need to beef up security in all aspects of travel. JMO.

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    I will and do drive where ever we go.

    This just goes to show that if you instill enough fear in people you can make them do whatever you want

    it will be a VERY frosty day below when I let someone run their hands over my daughters crotch because "she might be a mule". Does it make you FEEL safer to know that little girls and boys are being touched in ways that would get you on the sex offender list if it were anyone but the government?

    Adults can consent... kids don't get a choice.

    and if my daughter ended up on a flight that blew up I would be devestated but I wouldn't demand people have mandatory cavity searches or anything because something bad happened.




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    Since the terror aholes have sent impaired children to do their dirty work?


    Here's my "best Tom Clancy" scenario.

    Andrew Ackbar Salami puts the explosives into a disposable diaper and hopefully the child wearing it loads it up with a Deuce.

    No one wants to deal with a stinky diaper while in the screening line, so they ask to get on board to change it then.

    Or?

    What aboutg the idea of molding the explosives into the shape of a baby carrier.

    Or?

    Hide a little det cord in a baby bottle and then take it out and attach it to the window?

    Thiese 'people' have no problem with killing children, women and innocent travelers.............

    I understand why people are upset at being searched.

    I just don't want to NOT get to where I am going.

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    and when they start keeping their bombs in select orifices will we all be ok with mandatory cavity searches for everyone?

    Seriously it makes ME feel less safe knowing that we are being treated like criminals and that people and children are being touched in ways that would be a sexual offense if it were ANYONE else

    You NEVER know if you are going to GET to your destination no matter what way you travel. Planes go down for reasons other than terrorist (that's why I don't fly lol more likely to walk away from a car crash then a plane crash) much more often than you ever hear about a terrorist being caught.

    I think this just gives us the illusion of being "safe" and we will let people do whatever they want to our bodies and our childrens bodies. where do we draw the line or don't we?




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    I'm with Tanya on this one. I choose not to fly - and that dates back long before 2001.

    The TSA hires some very suspect workers. Do you want a pedophile or sex offender "scanning" you?

    The same airports than ban public breastfeeding insist on pornoscanners or public pat-downs.

    GMAB

    If it isn't the body searches, it's the added fees for carrying an extra kleenex in your pocket. Pretty soon they will be back to pay toilets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace View Post
    I'm with Tanya on this one. I choose not to fly - and that dates back long before 2001.

    The TSA hires some very suspect workers. Do you want a pedophile or sex offender "scanning" you?

    The same airports than ban public breastfeeding insist on pornoscanners or public pat-downs.

    GMAB

    If it isn't the body searches, it's the added fees for carrying an extra kleenex in your pocket. Pretty soon they will be back to pay toilets.
    Yes these aren't a specially trained or even very well screened government agency.

    Photos from the scanners have already been leaked and posted on the internet even though they aren't supposed to be KEEPING them ... they do anyway. this system is already being abused and it's been in place for how long? not very. SHOCKING.




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    I guess I'll have to "Chub it Up" before I go into pornscanners.


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    I'm not to happy to be forever know as "one of the passengers/victims" in a war that we will not win beause we choose a little freedom.


    Just for that?


    I think that a prostate check or a mammogram that keeps people alive is worth a little embarassment......It may not kill me, but I do get to live another day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks19 View Post

    This just goes to show that if you instill enough fear in people you can make them do whatever you want

    I agree. The Bush administration proved that for 8 long years.

    I don't think this new method is the ONLY way to insure airline safety.
    Send the TSA back to the drawing board to come up with something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    I agree. The Bush administration proved that for 8 long years.
    And to think we are only into it for two, so far.

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    "I'm a clockwork creep
    And I can't get to sleep
    They wind me up and let me go
    And I can't unwind
    Going out of my mind
    My time is coming soon you know"

    Tick a tick a time bomb

    "I'm a jumbo jet
    With a brand new set
    Of passengers and bags and crew
    I'll spread my wings -
    Do a thousand things
    To prove how good I am to you"

    Tick a tick a time bomb

    Meanwhile in the cargo of escargot
    The temperature is rising
    Advertising that our time is running
    Down, down, down, down, down
    Oh with just one minute to live
    Oh, no you'll never get me up in one of these again
    'Cos what goes up must come
    Down, down, down, down, down
    Down, down, down, down, down

    Oh, the gravity of the situation
    It's only my willpower
    That keeps this thing in operation
    But we're gonna crash that's for certain
    The pilot is too busy flirtin'
    And he ain't aware
    That there's a bomb down there
    And if he don't do something it's curtains

    "Now just hold on,"
    Said the little bomb,
    "If you were just to hold my hands
    Then time would stop
    The plot would flop
    And jumbo would be safe to land"

    Tick a tick a time bomb

    My landings are the envy
    Of Sabena and Pan Am
    From Chattanooga to Japan
    I taxi through the airways -
    What a swell little plane
    What a fine little plane
    What a great little plane
    I am

    "Hang on one sec
    I'm a clockwork wreck
    And though my fuse is burning slow
    Must keep my date to detonate
    Goodbye, ta ta, and cheerio

    Tick a tick a time bomb
    Tick a tick a time bomb

    Tick a........."

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    Let's see: touch my junk or maybe be blown to a million pieces? Sounds like a no brainer to me.

    I don't give you the right to enjoy touching my junk however. hehehehehe
    No matter what anyone does, someone some where will be offended some how!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces View Post
    Let's see: touch my junk or maybe be blown to a million pieces? Sounds like a no brainer to me.

    I don't give you the right to enjoy touching my junk however. hehehehehe
    It's more like "Touch my Junk and be just as likely to be blown to pieces when the terrorists figure out the way around this system which is pretty simple" They aren't keeping this new security under wraps. Everyone knows how they work and it's going to be pretty easy for the determined ones to find a way around it.

    Like I said before... when they start sticking the bombs where the sun don't shine or swallowing one will we all be happy to submit to mandatory cavity searches?




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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks19 View Post
    It's more like "Touch my Junk and be just as likely to be blown to pieces when the terrorists figure out the way around this system which is pretty simple" They aren't keeping this new security under wraps. Everyone knows how they work and it's going to be pretty easy for the determined ones to find a way around it.

    Like I said before... when they start sticking the bombs where the sun don't shine or swallowing one will we all be happy to submit to mandatory cavity searches?
    Guess it will depend on how much we want to arrive alive.
    No matter what anyone does, someone some where will be offended some how!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces View Post
    Let's see: touch my junk or maybe be blown to a million pieces? Sounds like a no brainer to me.

    I don't give you the right to enjoy touching my junk however. hehehehehe
    It only hurts for a little while?

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    In the cargo of escargot
    the temperature is rising.......

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    You are NEVER guaranteed to arrive alive anywhere you go. YOu can get the colonoscopy and the plane could still go down. A terrorist could be very skilled in hand to hand combat and take out the pilot. can't screen for that.

    The plane could malfunction and go down.

    You could drive your car and get in an accident.

    The train could go off the tracks.... etc etc etc

    you are NEVER guaranteed another day. Why give up your freedoms and your constitutional rights for that slim chance that something bad could happen especially considering this new system is quite easy to find a way to get around it.

    We are so crippled by our fear that we are willing to give up anything for the illusion of safety

    but rest assured you are NEVER going to be guaranteed that you will arrive alive.

    if I'm afraid to fly... I simply won't fly (nice that I have the option not to fly). I won't make everyone else give up their rights for MY fear.




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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    I agree. The Bush administration proved that for 8 long years.

    I don't think this new method is the ONLY way to insure airline safety.
    Send the TSA back to the drawing board to come up with something else.
    The airlines are not required to use the TSA - they can come up with their own security procedures.

    From a CNN interview with Isaac Yeffet, the former head of security for El Al and now an aviation security consultant in New York -

    CNN: What needs to be done to improve the system?

    Yeffet: It's mandatory that every passenger -- I don't care his religion or whatever he is -- every passenger has to be interviewed by security people who are qualified and well-trained, and are being tested all year long. I trained my guys and educated them, that every flight, for them, is the first flight. That every passenger is the first passenger. The fact that you had [safe flights] yesterday and last month means nothing. We are looking for the one who is coming to blow up our aircraft. If you do not look at each passenger, something is wrong with your system.

    CNN: What is El Al's approach to airline security? How does it differ from what's being done in this country?

    Yeffett: We must look at the qualifications of the candidate for security jobs. He must be educated. He must speak two languages. He must be trained for a long time, in classrooms. He must receive on-the-job training with a supervisor for weeks to make sure that the guy understands how to approach a passenger, how to convince him to cooperate with him, because the passenger is taking the flight and we are on the ground. The passengers have to understand that the security is doing it for their benefit.

    We are constantly in touch with the Israeli intelligence to find out if there are any suspicious passengers among hundreds of passengers coming to take the flight -- by getting the list of passengers for each flight and comparing it with the suspicious list that we have. If one of the passengers is on the list, then we are waiting for him, he will not surprise us.

    During the year, we did thousands of tests of our security guys around the world. It cost money, but once you save lives, it's worth all the money that the government gave us to have the right security system.

    CNN: Let's say all the airlines instituted the system that you're talking about. So let's say I go to an airport for a flight to London. What should happen?

    Yeffet: When you come to the check-in, normally you wait on line. While you wait on line, I want you to be with your luggage. You have to meet with me, the security guy. We tell you who we are. We ask for your passport, we ask for your ticket. We check your passport. We want to find which countries you visited. We start to ask questions, and based on your answers and the way you behave, we come to a conclusion about whether you are bona fide or not. That's what should happen.

    CNN: Every passenger should be interviewed, on all flights?

    Yeffet: Yes, 100 percent...

    I want to interview you. It won't take too long if you're bona fide. We never had a delay.

    Number two, I have heard so many times El Al is a small airline. We in America are big air carriers. Number one, we have over 400 airports around the country, why hasn't anyone from this government asked himself, let's take one airport out of 400 airports and try to implement El Al's system because their system proved they're the best of the best.

    For the last 40 years, El Al did not have a single tragedy. And they came to attack us and to blow up our aircraft, but we knew how to stop them on the ground. So let's try to implement the system at one airport in the country and then come to a conclusion...

    CNN: What do you think of using full body scanners?

    Yeffet: I am against it, this is once again patch on top of patch. Look what happened, Richard Reid, the shoebomber, hid the explosives in his shoes. The result -- all of us have to take off our shoes when we come to the airport. The Nigerian guy hid his explosives in his underwear. The result -- everyone now will be seen naked. Is this the security system that we want?

    We have millions of Muslims in this country. I am not Muslim, but I am very familiar with the tradition, I respect the tradition. Women who walk on the street cover their body from head to toe. Can you imagine the reaction of the husband? Excuse me, wait on the side, we want to see your wife's body naked?... This is not an answer.

    CNN: Would it be more expensive to provide the kind of security system you recommend?

    Yeffet: For sure El Al spends more money on security than the American air carriers. But the passengers are willing to pay for it if we can prove to them that they are secure when they come to take a flight.

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