Politics and religion.

[Medusa]

I am apologizing to anyone who is offended by the name calling.

Editing because I think I understand your question now Medusa!

If I had a son who was ill-behaved I would be embarrassed whether I knew the people who witnessed the ill-behavior or not, whether I respected the opinion of the people or not...of even if there were any others who witnessed it. It is the behavior that embarrasses me.

Does that help?

Yes, it does help but I guess I should be more succinct. In this case the people who are criticizing Obama's speaking to the classrooms believe that their conduct is none other than just and right. They aren't behaving badly but are merely exercising their right of free speech and are taking responsibility for their children's education. They are doing nothing for which to be embarrassed and you cannot be embarrassed for someone else. In whose eyes are you embarrassed and to whom are you apologizing, please?

[Edwina's Secretary]

Yes, it does help but I guess I should be more succinct. In this case the people who are criticizing Obama's speaking to the classrooms believe that their conduct is none other than just and right. They aren't behaving badly but are merely exercising their right of free speech and are taking responsibility for their children's education. They are doing nothing for which to be embarrassed and you cannot be embarrassed for someone else. In whose eyes are you embarrassed and to whom are you apologizing, please?

Medusa - feel free to twist my words and meaning around all you want. That does seem to be a sport of some people on PetTalk. You know and I know that we disagree on this subject.

You see just and right - I see petty and mean spirited.

I see calling the president of the United States a socialist to be narrow minded and uneducated.

And please, do not tell me what I am allowed to feel and what I am not.

For the last time...I am embarrassed by the conduct of some of my fellow countrymen and I do not need your permission to feel that way.

[Medusa]

Medusa - feel free to twist my words and meaning around all you want. That does seem to be a sport of some people on PetTalk. You know and I know that we disagree on this subject.

You see just and right - I see petty and mean spirited.

I see calling the president of the United States a socialist to be narrow minded and uneducated.

And please, do not tell me what I am allowed to feel and what I am not.

For the last time...I am embarrassed by the conduct of some of my fellow countrymen and I do not need your permission to feel that way.

I did not twist your words nor did I say that you are not allowed to feel a certain way. That is twisting words.

[Edwina's Secretary]

you cannot be embarrassed for someone else

Twisted? Right there you tell me what I cannot feel.

[Medusa]

Twisted? Right there you tell me what I cannot feel.

I stand corrected. Feel better now?

[Edwina's Secretary]

I stand corrected. Feel better now?

Sure, if you do.

The more I think about it....not really. I will when you "correct" others in the same manner you do me.....

[Medusa]

Sure, if you do.

The more I think about it....not really.

So be it.

[RICHARD]

I stand corrected. Feel better now?

You can stand corrected then sit unmolested.


I try not to engage people in battles that go back and forth...Especially when they are 100% right all the time. It kinda effs up my idea that I am perfect.

I haven't seen Miss Manners on the site, but I really think that we might aspire to be as polite and cultured as she is?

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Now, that we have done that.....

About the name calling?

I am not the person that has the best manners or couth on this site, but I do reserve the right to call MY politicians morons, idiots or jerks.

I am sure that the politicians that everyone else elected are model citizens and beacons of Liberty, Truth and the American way....Son of a Gun, I think I just messed myself while I typed that......

I stopped trying to defend my 'party' and the scumbags that pretend to look after my best interests-all while the glad hand me one way and pick my pocket with the other hand.

It's really embarrassing to go with the person you have maximum faith in, only to find out that he's got a cigar and intern fetish.

I liked the Clintons and really thought, at that time, spending a little 'free' time putting an 'idea' into the head of an intern was no one's business except bill, hillary and monica's.

Then I began to see that if I pulled something off like that, I wouldn't get any slack or second chance.

The it hit me.

What kind of AH would invite a little hottie into the Oval Office and make a mess of the whole encounter-I am being deliberately 'cute' with my descriptions, so read into them what you will?

I had a wonderful 'conversation' with a Liberal idiot and brought up the fact that Slick Willie had offended me by getting serviced in the OO and then had the nutz to lie about it.

My tax dollars paid for it? (and YES, I would have liked a job with bennies like that, I will not lie.)

This guy walked around the corner to his desk and after a few tense moments yells, "YOU AH....."

I didn't say anything after that-a few moments later I hear- "I didn't call you an AH, I was talking to the computer." come from the corner.

I really didn't care who he called an AH, but right then I learned how liberals think, act and behave.

So, if I give you short shrift and laugh at a post, idea or name you toss my way? Do not feel offended, do not take it personally either.

I just have no respect for you or your group of cowardly "lyins", It's very hard to get close to the rudeness that passes for you being true to your school.

The saddest part of political arguements is the thought that we try to get a point across to each other and most of the time people do not even have to 'manners' to answer in a non combative way.

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I admire some of the people on this site and thread because they are WAY deeper into the what the Constitution, BOR and all the laws and impending bills mean and how they will affect the country. That is really effing cool.

I wish I had spent more time on those subjects as opposed to biology and anatomy-I was more interested what parts women had under their clothes


Please do not take any offense at the names I call politicians, I only have patience with the ones I voted for, The idiots you elected are the problems you and I have to deal with.

[Medusa]

You can stand corrected then sit unmolested.


I try not to engage people in battles that go back and forth...Especially when they are 100% right all the time. It kinda effs up my idea that I am perfect.

I haven't seen Miss Manners on the site, but I really think that we might aspire to be as polite and cultured as she is?

----------------------

Now, that we have done that.....

About the name calling?

I am not the person that has the best manners or couth on this site, but I do reserve the right to call MY politicians morons, idiots or jerks.

I am sure that the politicians that everyone else elected are model citizens and beacons of Liberty, Truth and the American way....Son of a Gun, I think I just messed myself while I typed that......

I stopped trying to defend my 'party' and the scumbags that pretend to look after my best interests-all while the glad hand me one way and pick my pocket with the other hand.

It's really embarrassing to go with the person you have maximum faith in, only to find out that he's got a cigar and intern fetish.

I liked the Clintons and really thought, at that time, spending a little 'free' time putting an 'idea' into the head of an intern was no one's business except bill, hillary and monica's.

Then I began to see that if I pulled something off like that, I wouldn't get any slack or second chance.

The it hit me.

What kind of AH would invite a little hottie into the Oval Office and make a mess of the whole encounter-I am being deliberately 'cute' with my descriptions, so read into them what you will?

I had a wonderful 'conversation' with a Liberal idiot and brought up the fact that Slick Willie had offended me by getting serviced in the OO and then had the nutz to lie about it.

My tax dollars paid for it? (and YES, I would have liked a job with bennies like that, I will not lie.)

This guy walked around the corner to his desk and after a few tense moments yells, "YOU AH....."

I didn't say anything after that-a few moments later I hear- "I didn't call you an AH, I was talking to the computer." come from the corner.

I really didn't care who he called an AH, but right then I learned how liberals think, act and behave.

So, if I give you short shrift and laugh at a post, idea or name you toss my way? Do not feel offended, do not take it personally either.

I just have no respect for you or your group of cowardly "lyins", It's very hard to get close to the rudeness that passes for you being true to your school.

The saddest part of political arguements is the thought that we try to get a point across to each other and most of the time people do not even have to 'manners' to answer in a non combative way.

----------------------------

I admire some of the people on this site and thread because they are WAY deeper into the what the Constitution, BOR and all the laws and impending bills mean and how they will affect the country. That is really effing cool.

I wish I had spent more time on those subjects as opposed to biology and anatomy-I was more interested what parts women had under their clothes


Please do not take any offense at the names I call politicians, I only have patience with the ones I voted for, The idiots you elected are the problems you and I have to deal with.

It isn't the name calling of politicians that I object to as much as I object to people on PT and those who disagree w/them and/or politicians that get called fools, morons, etc. We can disagree w/out being villified, can't we? This constant back and forth picking at each other's grammar, spelling, etc. is childish and tedious and it makes visiting the DH an unpleasant experience when it could be one of mutual learning and an exchange of ideas.

[RICHARD]

It isn't the name calling of politicians that I object to as much as I object to people on PT and those who disagree w/them and/or politicians that get called fools, morons, etc.

Agreed.

[Edwina's Secretary]

I know what I am. Opinionated, outspoken, lean liberal...sometimes obnoxious.

I don't pretend to be something I am not.

What I object to...is people who think it is okay for them to spout off and then act all offended when others do it. You know...live in glass houses?

And yes...I am talking to you.

I deleted the sewing machine thread becauses of your "villifying"...