Jon and Kate, plus 8 and two more?

[RICHARD]

LOL,

Saw a clip on of K doing an interview for a TV show.

It was during a break because the kids were goofing around and the mom was sitting there watching them. One of the olders twins was fidgeting around and asked the mom for a drink of water. The kid isn't acting badly but is starting to whine. The mom tell her to sit tight and the kid tells her, "You are being mean!"

The next clip shows the mom opening up a bottle of water, taking a sip, recapping it and the clip cuts to the little girl telling K that she is mean to take a sip of water in front of her......

Oh MOMMA! That was the first sign of the end of days.

wait until the kids come home from school with some 'words' and the "YOU ARE STUPID!" mantra.

Poor old Kate will stop in her tracks, begin to tremble, then run out of the room so the kids don't see her crying because she failed as a parent.


This is a train wreck that will rival any seen before.

As soon as the kids start to "smell fear" in the parents and start to realize that mom is screaming more and more at daddy, it's all over.

[blue]

'Jon & Kate Plus 8' stars say they're divorcing.....

BY ESE ESAN
DETROIT.METROMIX.COM

Updated at 10:20 p.m.

"This is the hardest episode ever," Jon Gosselin’s said as he began the special one-hour episode of TLC’s “Jon & Kate Plus 8.”

"We can’t go back now,” Kate Gosselin said in a separate interview. “We can only go forward.”

Reality stars Jon and Kate, who are parents to a set of twins and sextuplets, dropped an anticipated bombshell during their show Monday night when they announced that they were separating after 10 years of marriage. Divorce papers were filed Monday afternoon in their hometown in Pennsylvania.

“I have to do what’s best for me and my kids,” said Jon who first spoke to his soon-to-be ex wife via cell phone in the episode titled “Houses and Big Changes.” “It’s been so stressful.”

Over the last few months, tabloids have pointed fingers at both Jon and Kate for infidelity, but Kate said during the show that the problems stem back longer than that. "We haven’t really known where we were going, but we’ve been dealing with this for a long time," Kate said.

While some tabloids argued that the Gosselins are victims to the “reality show curse,” where married couples split after having their lives taped (think the Hogans, Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey, and Danny Bonaduce and ex-wife Gretchen), Kate claims, “I believe it’s a chapter that probably would have played out had the world been watching or not.”

The Gosselin kids seemed oblivious to the drama their parents were experiencing as they sported Crooked House T-shirts during part of the show and received playhouses that start at $1,249, according to kidscrookedhouse.com.

Both parents insist that “Jon & Kate” will go on -- with the kids staying at the $1.1 million house and Jon coming and going according to a yet-to-be-determined schedule.

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[caseysmom]

Yeah I watched, I wonder if its a publicity stunt, I don't really think so but it does make me wonder.

[Pam]

For the first time last night I felt sorry for Kate. I think it has sunk in with her how much this split is going to cost them in terms of the family she had hoped to always have. Her eyes were definitely puffy and she confessed to a crying meltdown the day before. I think she probably realizes her mistakes (she has confessed to being hard on Jon) but it seems that there is no patching things up and no turning back.

Jon seemed to be the one who wants this to happen. I can understand his point of view. He (and Kate) are only 32 years old and they have 8 kids. As they say in the beginning of the show, "it may be a crazy life but it's our life." Can you imagine just how crazy it is? I raised two and that was hard enough. Jon said he wanted this for the good of his children (so they didn't have to witness all of the fighting). He is right. The fighting is no good, but divorce will present many other problems. Raising this group is hard enough with two parents at the wheel let alone one at a time.

I really think these two could benefit from some good counseling. Unfortunately the impression that I got as I watched the show (more from Jon than Kate) is they want this split and that is the way it is going to be. I think counseling has probably never been an option. Therein is part of the problem.

The sad part is that the kids will some day watch this and understand and a few of them may blame themselves for splitting up their parents due to the high stress level of just keeping up with them. It was not their fault. It is actually not anyone's "fault" really. It was a huge task to undertake (having and raising 8 children) and it was probably only a matter of time til the stress killed them.

[happylabs]

I was hoping the BIG announcement was going to be that they were canceling the show. The best thing they could do is cancel the show and get on with a normal life, well, as normal as one could be for them now.

I also raised two kids, and, yes, it was a full time job. My husband left me after 17 years of marriage for an old college girlfriend. His reason for leaving was that he was not happy. He expected me to fix his unhappiness. I tried but he wasn't. My kids were 13 and 11 at the time. I asked my husband to go to counseling to try to work things out. He wanted no part of it. I asked the girlfriend to back off so we could work on our marriage and she declined.

The divorce was tough for me because I still loved the guy. I went through a year of being hurt and healing my heart. Then I went through a year of being hateful towards him which did not help the kids. Finally, I came to my senses and realized that being hateful was eating me up. After that we parented the kids together even though we were not living together or married any longer. It isn't an easy thing. My kids are 22 and 19 now and have come out fairly well.

The reason for my rant on this...I cannot imagine going through this with 8 kids! They could work it out but they need counseling big time.

I'll get off my soap box now.

[beeniesmom]

Jon seemed to be the one who wants this to happen.

I really think these two could benefit from some good counseling. Unfortunately the impression that I got as I watched the show (more from Jon than Kate) is they want this split and that is the way it is going to be. I think counseling has probably never been an option. Therein is part of the problem.

The sad part is that the kids will some day watch this and understand and a few of them may blame themselves for splitting up their parents due to the high stress level of just keeping up with them. It was not their fault. It is actually not anyone's "fault" really. It was a huge task to undertake (having and raising 8 children) and it was probably only a matter of time til the stress killed them.

I totally agree with what you said. It's a real pity.
I was really sad watching the episode last night.

It's pretty obvious that Jon initiated the divorce because he is tired of the lime light and being treated as less than a man .... and as I mentioned somwhere in this thread about him being passive.... he admitted being the passive one and letting Kate rule the roost.

They are both to blame.

I don't agree with what Kate said.... about this happening whether they were on the show or not. I don't think it would have happened if they lived out of the lights.... they both would have stayed more in tune with each other.

[aTailOf2Kitties]

I figured things were starting to get desperate when they had the big "wedding" episode a few months back.

[beeniesmom]

Random thought.....

I bet Jon will go on and become a porn star...

[happylabs]

random thought.....

I bet jon will go on and become a porn star...

lol!!!!!

[RICHARD]

MY mom and dad had 6, 1 really nasty girl, four boys, each a year apart and a girl 6 years after the last boy. It can be down. My mom was the Terminator, dad was the silent partner.....

My mom did have the mouth, but she was never abusive, the way Kate is to her hubby.

Three things that killed this marriage is the show, her (Kate's) desire to be a perfect mom and her attitude towards Jon.. What she will not admit is that she is a woman who has a 'compulsive disease' -everything is a list that has to be checked off, in order and done in the time frame she sets up.

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Dude,
I can imagine that in another marriage, some cuckoo/fruity nut cake would have made sure the new playhouse was situated over the shallow grave.


I just heard a radio clip of Jon saying that they were separating...Hmmmmm...
Just because the filed papers does not mean they will divorce.


IT's just a vacation, Jon will come visit his testes, Kate will realize she needs pro help and the show MUST GO ON!

[Pam]

I have an idea for a future show..... an interview with Dr. Phil as the mediator. Seriously, I think they need to look at themselves through the eyes of someone else. They are too busy defending their own positions in this. I have concerns with Jon planning a move to New York. I have a feeling he is just going to sort of "drop off the scene" totally - not just the TV scene. I hope not, but I think he has some wild oats he has yet to sow and wants to get away from the husband/dad role for a while.

The playhouse thing was some good insight into their problems. He told her where he wanted to put them and she didn't pay attention to what he was saying until the things actually arrived. Kate had a good idea about the placement of the playhouses but why did she wait so long to discuss this with Jon. It's about COMMUNICATION or, in their case, lack of it.

P.S. to Richard. They did file divorce papers yesterday. I think this is the real deal.

[kuhio98]

If the rumors of Jon apartment hunting in New York are true, I find it very hard to see how he intends to stay that involved in his children's lives.

I've always had compassion for Kate. I figured all her demanding ways came out of fear of things. She has to have things a certain way or she freaks. I really don't think it's because she's mean -- I think she has panic attacks or OCD issues.

Jon is pretty passive. I think she felt she had to step up to the plate and take charge because he didn't want to take that role. Nothing wrong with that, but then don't beat up the person who took charge because you didn't want to.

Jon will never read this, but if I would tell him that if he wants his wife to stop treating him like one of the children, he needs to stop acting like one of them.

[joycenalex]

.....I've always had compassion for Kate. I figured all her demanding ways came out of fear of things. She has to have things a certain way or she freaks. I really don't think it's because she's mean -- I think she has panic attacks or OCD issues. Jon is pretty passive. I think she felt she had to step up to the plate and take charge because he didn't want to take that roll. Nothing wrong with that, but then don't beat up the person who took charge because you didn't want to.
Jon will never read this, but if I would tell him that if he wants his wife to stop treating him like one of the children, he needs to stop acting like one of them.

there is truth to this.....so let jon have custody and watch how that new girlfriend moves on. as for the porn career....has anyone else seen the promos for the HBO show "Hung"?

[catnapper]

I have been waiting for this separation to come! They're local -- only 15 minutes from me. They used to live in a house a few blocks from me (when they first started with the first TLC documentary) We see Jon all over -- he's always in his car just driving around aimlessly (or so it seems.... and who could blame him to do that just to get OUT of that house?!)

Their house is a thousand times more gorgeous in person. The area is simply beautiful! We were googling the aerial view from work yesterday. The address is no longer showing online, but we all knew where to look anyway

They go to the local church where a lot of family friends go. A lot of my friends and friend's friends have revealed a lot of what REALLY goes on in the family. Lets just say shecomes off BETTER on TV than she is in real life. She's actually somewhat polite on TV. In real life, she's more snotty. If you can believe it!

My friend has a child who is friend with all the kids. She refuses to tell me anything, except "Kate does the best she can with the situation". Hmmmmmmmmm.... I'm not quite sure what that means.

You should hear all the conversations going on around here about them. It seems EVERYONE has a different story to tell about what Kate is really like. Nobody in the church likes her. They have soooo many stories about how she acts towards the congregation. I had a little old man in my store a few weeks ago. My chin dropped with what he said. Shocking because of how the old guy worded it, and shocking how snobby she was from day one (I can PM some of the stories - but don't want to post here because of it being second hand, in case of liability and such)

[RICHARD]

http://smallbusiness.aol.com/article...23151609990001

I didn't see the episode w/the crooked house but this is the potential benefits of 'donating' services/goods to a TV program.