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  1. #1
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    "People who are willing to sacrifice a little bit of freedom for a little bit of security, shall have nor DESERVE either."

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    "Unlike most of you, I am not a nut."

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    I WAS a victim of sexual abuse as a child, and I can't get behind something so invasive. No way.

    (OMG, do Puckstop and I agree on something?!)

    Thank you Wolf_Q!

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    LOL

    My child's safety and security is MY responsibility. A responsibility that I take VERY seriously. Surely it is impossible to gurantee 100% safety, but with a little research and legwork you can do a lot of things to keep your children safe from predators. It all starts with responsible parenting. Something the bloody government needs to keep its hands out of.

    "Train up a child in the way he should go; and when he is old, he will not depart from it." Proverbs 22:6
    "Unlike most of you, I am not a nut."

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    "If the enemy opens the door, you must race in."

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    If the Federal Government continues with it's power grab in the realm of law enforcement, we may as well just disband State and local agencies, and have them all fall under the Federal law enforcement banner. After all, with packet switching networks, almost every communication made during the commission of a crime renders it as an interstate matter, and thus should be in the hands of Federal law enforcement anyway.

    Then we could really accuse the police of being the Stazi.

    Our children's protection is first and foremost OUR responsibility. Not government's. Frankly, I don't want either their help or interference in those matters.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Well, it's pretty clear that nobody who posted so far has even read the bill
    that's being talked about. I hope that those who do look & read up on this
    legislation decide to support efforts to stop the creation & distribution of
    child porn in this country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    Well, it's pretty clear that nobody who posted so far has even read the bill
    that's being talked about. I hope that those who do look & read up on this
    legislation decide to support efforts to stop the creation & distribution of
    child porn in this country.

    My current career has me a Network Systems Engineer. This job has exposed me to situations where I am working on computers where the user has viewed/stored/created/distributed child pornography. Each and every time I have reported it to the police. Each and EVERY time, there never was the evidence or the will to procede with charges.

    NOTHING the government or law enforcement can or WILL do can protect my daughter from this stuff more than I can.

    Again I stress... Child safety from <insert horrible thing here> comes from PARENTS taking PERSONAL responsibility for THEIR child. Do not pass the buck to ANYone other than yourself.

    No way in HELL will I allow MY childs wellbeing to be the responsibility of anyone other than myself or her mother. The idea of "it takes a village" is utter bullcrap. It takes parents who are willing to be their childs PARENTS and not their friend.

    I love my daughter with every fiber of my soul. Right now (almost 1 year old) it is a lot of fun. But sooner or later she is going to be a challenge. not because of anything we do or do not do, but because of man's inherit nature.

    I need to do just as the Bible tells me too. "Raise her up in the way that she should go." Ignore the religion in that... Look at the wisdom there in.
    "Unlike most of you, I am not a nut."

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    "If the enemy opens the door, you must race in."

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    Liz, I went to Thomas and read the bill in toto.

    There are no restrictions requiring a warrant before the "suspects" are monitored.

    There are no restrictions on the definition of "images of child abuse".

    It's far too open ended, and leaves too much open for interpretation.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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