Need Help

[shepgirl]

Sorry, I meant Molly wants Lacy out of the way---got the names mixed up.

[Lori Jordan]

Molly is a Newfoundland,I dont think her intensions are killing Lacy,They both have been fighting to be number 1 "Alpha"

[Freedom]

Molly is a Newfoundland,I dont think her intensions are killing Lacy,They both have been fighting to be number 1 "Alpha"

And what do you think happens when 2 dogs battle for the Alpha position??? Mostly, one dies. Rarely, the 'weaker' dog leaves the pack. Lacy has no option to leave; so Molly is NOT going to leave her be until she is GONE.

Keep them separated to keep them BOTH safe. If Molly succeeds in her quest, depending on the laws in your area, it could mean she has to be PTS.

Sorry I have no idea what to do about the wounds. When I have had cat bites - puncture wounds - I had to soak them in saline solution every 4 hours to keep them from healing from the top down. I don't know if that would be the same in this case or not.

[Catty1]

Lori - don't rip the scabs off! Just my thought - that is how the skin heals...

Perhaps after this, talk to a behaviour therapist, or get ideas from PTrs here on how YOU become th "alpha". Maybe that will keep them from competing with each other.

Like Jadapit posted, if there is no bleeding, no drastic measures.

The only home stuff I would EVER use is Polysporin - but on vet's advice, as it can keep the wound from 'breathing'.

HUGS to your poor pup!

[Glacier]

She's laying around because she's likely in shock. Keep her warm and calm. Keep the wounds from getting dirty, but don't block them. Punctures have far more damage under the skin than is visible from the outside. They need to drain or they will form nasty abcesses. Do not feed her tonight. Get her to a vet asap. The not feeding is in case they need to knock her out to put in drains or sutures.

You have two females who have fought more than once. Females do not quit. They do not stop when the other dog submits. They do not forgive and forget. I'm really not trying to be harsh or mean, but if you continue to leave them unsupervised, one of them will kill the other. If they were my dogs, they'd never see each other again. They'd be seperated at all times.

[Animalhouse26]

Keep the Wounds clean.. Wash it out ever few hrs if U can. Make sure they stay clean. Keep her away from other dogs till she is seen by the vet. And Call As soon as they are open in the AM. Let the Wounds breath. *Unless they are Really deep and still bleeding. And I wouldn't let those girls NEAR Each other.. at all. PERIOD! Just cause ure around doesn't mean it wont happen again! Talk to a Behaviourist. But, If they can't help.. they may tell you to keep em seperated for the rests of there lives.. This Wont get better without further help.


Good luck!

[Lori Jordan]

We have taken them to behavior councelor,they have not fought in months,My daughter was home when this happend,They were seprerated for almost a year,But in pictures you see them they were fine.They are both spayed also.The vet also said that should help the matter.


They have fought before yes,But never to this measure,Usually they just back off.I really do not know what to do,Lacy will be seen by my vet in the morning,she would be there tonight if it was possible.It is really hard for me to deal with this,I cannot keep one locked in a room for the rest of its life.


I can just do one thing at a time,my first thing is getting Lacy looked after,I dont want to be made out as a bad owner,You all know i always do what is best for my animals.Molly is bad when it comes to Lacy i dont know why she does this to her.

[Lori Jordan]

Lori - don't rip the scabs off! Just my thought - that is how the skin heals...

That is what a friend of mine said......She said if you let it scab it will get infected inside,But Lacy is obviously not going to scab overnight,Im not doing anything other then cleaning her,Im too scared to do anything until i see my vet tomorrow morning.

[Grace]

How is Lacy this morning?

[AnimalLuver90]

there can be many ways to stop this in an easy way or even a difficult way but it's worth the risk. if you see your dogs are about to fight, walk up to them (don't run) and use in a loud and firm voice a commanding, "NO!" trust me, your dogs will pay more attention to you more than the battle that will about to start. another way you can keep your dogs from fighting is keep the more rough dog in a crate and leave your other dogs in an area that they cannot see the new puppy. only leave them alone when YOU, THE MASTER IS AROUND! otherwise, they will definitely want to fight each other when their owner is not around.

[pitc9]

I'm so sorry you're going through this.
From my own past experience I know that owning 2 females can be quite challenging.

I hope you are able to help your girls.
I hope Lacy heals up quickly too!

[Lori Jordan]

I'm so sorry you're going through this.
From my own past experience I know that owning 2 females can be quite challenging.

I hope you are able to help your girls.
I hope Lacy heals up quickly too!

Thank you,Lacy is doing alot better she is not laying around like she was.

I have to keep the wounds open,Which has been very hard.

She is on strong antibiotics for 10 days,Then they would like to see her back to see how she is healing.

[cyber-sibes]

Molly is a Newfoundland,I dont think her intensions are killing Lacy,They both have been fighting to be number 1 "Alpha"

Don't bet on this ever being resolved peaceably once & for all. Dogs live by their own built-in hereditary code, it's hard-wired. It will be up to you to keep them apart for good, because you won't get any warning when things are about to explode. (This is why we now have only one female)

Mine have had a few scuffles resulting in puncture wounds, I clean them up with hydrogen peroxide & just keep them clean. My vet said to put triple anitibiotic ointment on it. I do recall one vet said not to use peroxide straight, but dilute it with water.

Hope they're both healing up alright. That is so frustrating, we know your not a bad dog mom, just dealing with dogs acting like dogs. (((hugs))) to you!

[Glacier]

My vet said to put triple anitibiotic ointment on it. I do recall one vet said not to use peroxide straight, but dilute it with water.

Straight peroxide kills the healthy tissue too. That's why it's recommended to dilute it.

I hope your dogger is doing better today!

[shepgirl]

Lori I think you're missing the point. It isn't a matter of showing them you are the alpha...they will recognize you as their alpha without a doubt. But they will still keep trying to win the top dog position. Whether Molly is a Newfie or not doesn't count in hiaerchy issues. Since she is bigger and has already traumatized the other pack member, it will be just a matter of time before she kills her. I've seen this more than once, they have to be kept apart period. You could be in the house with them, but get busy or turn your back and the deed is done. When it happens it will be too late for "I should"this or that, you will lose your dog forever. And your vet saying spaying would help is very wrong, it does nothing to help, just as neutering does nothing to tame aggression.
I hope your dog will be fine and that the vet will give you some good advice.
Be careful of scary situations with your dog for a while, the shock of the attack is still fresh and she will need to be reintroduced to noise and commotion again.