What is YOUR definition of a BYB?

[buttercup132]

She owns a lot of land, and is busy most of the day out there. Even tho i would not call it a job is hard to keep up with land and when you are alone. She also visits her grandchildren a lot, and YES she does everything but show her dogs. That does not make her a bad dog owner/breeder to me. There are many worse out there. I dont know anything else since i dint ask her about her personal life much :x

Why doesn't she hire someone to handle her dogs for her?

[Lori Jordan]

Funny, I would classify that as a puppy mill.

No it is for the money,This is how her and her husband live,Off all there animals,I have seen some of the pups,Now i cannot judge there health but from what i have seen they seem to be healthy,And all that has been told to me is it is very clean atmosphere.Now this couple are in there 60's i would say.

[ScottieMommy]

No it is for the money,This is how her and her husband live,Off all there animals,I have seen some of the pups,Now i cannot judge there health but from what i have seen they seem to be healthy,And all that has been told to me is it is very clean atmosphere.Now this couple are in there 60's i would say.

See people that age i dont think do this to hurt the animal or know they are doing wrong. They probably love their dogs as you and i do.

[cali]

to me, a good breeder is a soemoe who breeds to improve the breed. what "improve the breed" means is something else entirly lol

some would say you need to show to improve the breed, to others its the total opposite.

some would say you need to work for work to improve the breed, other say if the work is obselete then who cares.

some say that breeding soly for health and temperment is improving the breed, other disagree.

personally, I think it depends on the breed. for some breeds you need to show and work the dogs to be a good breeder; for other breeds only showing is needed; and for other breeds, showing makes for a terrable breeder, and only breeding for work can be considered a good breeder. Temperment and health should be a given for ANY breeder.

[Ginger's Mom]

No it is for the money,This is how her and her husband live,Off all there animals,I have seen some of the pups,Now i cannot judge there health but from what i have seen they seem to be healthy,And all that has been told to me is it is very clean atmosphere.Now this couple are in there 60's i would say.

Exactly they breed several different breeds in order to make money. That would be what a puppy mill does. By your own words you cannot speak to the health of the pups or the cleanliness of the kennels. The worst puppy mill in PA is run by a lady that is in her late 50's; age has nothing to do with it. Whether she thinks there is anything wrong with breeding multiple litters of dogs with questionable health and breeding, doesn't really change the fact that she runs one of the worst puppy mills in PA. The proprietors health and indifference to the severity of the dog overpopulation problem does not make their puppy mill anything better or different than any other puppy mill.

[Lori Jordan]

Exactly they breed several different breeds in order to make money. That would be what a puppy mill does. By your own words you cannot speak to the health of the pups or the cleanliness of the kennels. The worst puppy mill in PA is run by a lady that is in her late 50's; age has nothing to do with it. Whether she thinks there is anything wrong with breeding multiple litters of dogs with questionable health and breeding, doesn't really change the fact that she runs one of the worst puppy mills in PA. The proprietors health and indifference to the severity of the dog overpopulation problem does not make their puppy mill anything better or different than any other puppy mill.

I am not defending any actions from this couple,I am just saying i have never heard anything bad or wrong with her dogs,It is a tough situation i wish i could take all these animals that go with out,But you and i both know it is impossible.

There are alot of things going on in this world that no one can change,As animal lovers we cannot sit here and say we are against it all,Where would or pets have come from?