Wrestlers family found dead

[Catty1]

The steroid effect even has a nickname: Roid Rage. I think that indicates how common it is.

What does Mike think of this story, Mugsy?

[Argranade]

This is so sad,

My brother is such a huge wrestler fan,

He did not belive this at first & neither did I, untill I heard it on the news.

Horrible.

[mugsy]

What does Mike think of this story, Mugsy?

Mike said the thought it was a case of a severely depressed man who was on steroids and lost his mind. He also said it's too bad that he was in a business that glorifies the use of steroids.

[RICHARD]

A few little tidbits.

Vince Mc Mahon has had some little business problems with steroids and the wrestling biz.

He and Terry "Hulk" Bollea testified in Congress on the abuse of steroids and the charges that VM supplied wrestlers with 'roids.

CB was known for his 'cut throat' motion before pinning an opponent. He'd draw a thumb across his throat then make the move- That 'sign' caught on in the NFL until the commish, Paul Tagliabue put an end to it.

There have been several other suicides by people in the WWF/WWE/WCW
alliances in the last few years.

I believe it was Owen Harte, one of the Harte Brothers wrestling team who fell to his death at a WWE event. Brett Harte, Owen's brother; left the WWE after an event where he "lost" a title in a match he was guaranteed by VM to win.

Back in the 60's to early 80's wrestling was fun to watch.

Too much BS now.

I'd rather watch IFL-UFC fights.


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I haven't watched wrestling in years-but I always check it out when I hear about a wrestler's death.

[Catty1]

Bret Hart had a bad stroke about 3 years ago...he has slowly regained his health, and does a lot of charity work...attending the events, not performing in them!

He was at an event here in Cochrane a couple of years ago, and I went up to him, shook his hand. Very gentle and approachable fellow, and polite. Is he always like that? Who knows? Perhaps his brother's death and his own health scare had given him a different look on things.

Nope...Olympic wrestling, based on the Greek style, is the only real wrestling around anymore, IMO.

This other steroid-driven parody won't leave until the tickets stop selling, and the tvs are switched off during broadcast times.

Too bad.

[sparks19]

Yes Owen Harts death was a tragedy. He was performing a stunt where he was supposed to repel from the ceiling and he fell to his death Very sad indeed. He was apparently a very good man.

British Bulldog also died a few years ago from a heart attack (no doubt roid induced)

and Yes.... WWE wrestling is very fake and scripted..... but it is still very dangerous. Many a wrestler has become paralyzed or had a very close call from a stunt gone wrong.

Greco Roman wrestling is very real though.... but that is not the style they use in the WWE .... it's all high flying stunts now. WWE is like watching a movie or a sitcom.... it's all scripted (the only parts that are improv are the speaking parts) but none the less it does still take a lot of physical effort.

[wombat2u2004]

It's all crazy stuff if ya ask me, including the drugs associated with that sport (would it be classified as SPORT ????) And now this happens....a whole family gone.....I guess like Catty says.....it all will only go away when ticket sales etc etc stop.
Wom

[RICHARD]

Catty knows GR wrestling?

That's 10 points in any book. Got see GR in the '84 Games. That was fun!

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The moves in "pro" rassling are very tough and acrobatic. These guys are athletes..There was a great expose on VM and the biz a few years ago...
That soured me on the spectacle.

The thing that gets me are the "reports" on what happened.
In typical fashion, there were 'roids found, there weren't, it was gunshots or suffocation.

'Roids are too much fun to report on-mental illness?
In my book killing anyone qualifes, drugs or not.

They poor reporting and the supposition muddle the waters.

Either way it's reported, it's too bad.

[Glacier]

Bret Hart had a bad stroke about 3 years ago...he has slowly regained his health, and does a lot of charity work...attending the events, not performing in them!

He was at an event here in Cochrane a couple of years ago, and I went up to him, shook his hand. Very gentle and approachable fellow, and polite. Is he always like that? Who knows? Perhaps his brother's death and his own health scare had given him a different look on things.

In another lifetime I used to train at a gym in Calgary owed by the Hart family. Bret was there quite often. He was always "Bret the Hitman"--friendly and approachable, but always in character! He only let that down around his family. He was still an active wrestling superstar back then.

Owen and I worked out at the same time quite often. He was hysterical! I loved him, not as a wrestler, but as a person! He cracked me up in the gym. I have a couple memories that still make me giggle...one day a teenage boy was in the gym, trying to move as much weight as he could and doing it all wrong. Owen watched him for probably twenty minutes with his head cocked like a curious dog. Finally he went over and asked the kid "just which muscle was he trying to work?", teased him for a few minutes and then showed him how to do it right. That kid is probably still telling people that Owen Hart was his trainer, even if only for a day. Another day when I was unloading a bar, he dragged the big doughhead who had left four hundred pounds on it, back over by his t-shirt and gave him a lecture about showing a little respect for the "lady" and unloading his own weights! BJ's didn't have very many female members! I never unloaded another bar again that wasn't my own.

I miss that gym. It was rundown, full of hardcore body builders, no nice showers or whirlpools, but I've never found another place where i actually wanted to train.

Until 'roids don't mean more money for both wrestlers and bodybuilders, they will always be part of both events.

[Pawsitive Thinking]

My hubby enjoys watching the so-called wrestling, although it seems to me that they are just shouting matches in silly costumes these days. I timed it once and it was a whole 20 minutes before anything other than shouting took place..........

This latest tragedy is horrific....

what do people think about Vince McThing suddenly declaring he isn't dead after all how sick is that man???

[anna_66]

In another lifetime I used to train at a gym in Calgary owed by the Hart family. .

You never cease to amaze me Tamara
Very cool!

[petslover]

I feel like I should defend the wrestling business. I have been around the business for 21 years now. (I am 21) My whole family has worked in it.. Just like any other sport or company, wrestling has their weakness too. Let's not blame the entire sport on what happened with this story.

Don't blame the WWE for what Benoit did. It was not Vince McMahon's fault, It was not WWE's fault that this man killed his family and himself.

I think it is a disgrace for a man to kill his family especially his son. There is NO excuse for that. Benoit was tested for drugs in April. According to WWE, He passed the test. It seemed like Benoit had a huge problem. He has been accused of having rages for a long time now.

Vince McMahon did have an explosion that caused him to "die." but everyone watching it could have figured out it was a script. I don't see anything wrong with that. People die on tv shows all the time, but are they really dead? Of course not.

I just feel like the entire "wrestling business" is getting looked down upon now, but that's not right.

I know most of the wrestlers. Most of them are the nicest, most down to earth people you will ever know.

So please don't judge the entire business on what one person did.