Grieving couple commits suicide after dog dies

[pitc9]

Everything has to die sooner or later, that's stupid taking your life for a dog.

What I think is stupid is the fact that you feel that way.

[Roxyluvsme13]

What I think is stupid is the fact that you feel that way.

I agree.

Nobody ever said a bird wasn't anything like a dog. I sob when my fish die, so are you going to say that's less important than a dog and it's stupid to cry over that?

If you had spent 13 of your last years with a beloved pet, and had only that pet and your husband or wife, and that dog meant the world to you, how do you think you would feel then? You're not going to go to hell for committing suicide, if you believe in God, and if you believe in what he does, then that right there sends you to heaven. Anyways, that's getting completely off topic, and you really had no right to say it's "stupid" about someone committing suicide over their dog.

[Argranade]

What I think is stupid is the fact that you feel that way.

Well if you don't like the word ''stupid'' I'll put it this way,

It was plain ''FOOLISH'' ...

I agree.
Nobody ever said a bird wasn't anything like a dog. I sob when my fish die, so are you going to say that's less important than a dog and it's stupid to cry over that?

If you had spent 13 of your last years with a beloved pet, and had only that pet and your husband or wife, and that dog meant the world to you, how do you think you would feel then? You're not going to go to hell for committing suicide, if you believe in God, and if you believe in what he does, then that right there sends you to heaven. Anyways, that's getting completely off topic, and you really had no right to say it's "stupid" about someone committing suicide over their dog.

I would feel sad and pissed off but I would not go about killing my self.

I honestly don't feel sorry for that couple, I feel MORE sorry for there family having to know there own parents, grandma, cousin ect ... killed them self for a dog. There's nothing wrong with crying over a fish .. as long as you don't stuff your head in the fish tank drowning your self along with it!

People who suffer from being depressed they should seek HELP! or find somthing like a hobby to take your mind off things. If you can't handle an animal dieing the first time and want to think about KILLING YOUR SELF DON'T get another pet because you will get even more depressed when that animal dies & will have a greater chance of deing or killing your self OR just going completly crazy.

Everyone should consider an animals death before they buy one, make sure you know how you will handle it.

For me when a pet dies I get very sad about it but I always move on and start taking pictures or drawing to take my mind off the passing of a bird, I can handle moving on to a new bird very fast which is good if I want to work with them as I get older, I have to deal with many birds deing every single year ... but I can take it. This lady loved her mawcaw but he died at 40 years old from a disease .. she got so deprresed about it BUT she quickly moved on and thought about other things. Sadly not everyone takes things that easy ... I know if you had a pet for over 20 years even 15 it's very hard to take there death BUT it's somthing every pet owner will have to go threw.

[Prairie Purrs]

Well if you don't like the word ''stupid'' I'll put it this way,

It was plain ''FOOLISH'' ...

I would feel sad and pissed off but I would not go about killing my self.

I honestly don't feel sorry for that couple, I feel MORE sorry for there family having to know there own parents, grandma, cousin ect ... killed them self for a dog. There's nothing wrong with crying over a fish .. as long as you don't stuff your head in the fish tank drowning your self along with it!

People who suffer from being depressed they should seek HELP! or find somthing like a hobby to take your mind off things. If you can't handle an animal dieing the first time and want to think about KILLING YOUR SELF DON'T get another pet because you will get even more depressed when that animal dies & will have a greater chance of deing or killing your self OR just going completly crazy.

I hope you never are unfortunate enough to have a close friend or family member who suffers from severe depression. As a depression sufferer, I can tell you that people with attitudes like yours make life much more difficult for those of us who have this illness.

Find a hobby to take your mind off things??? Please. Go do some research into what depression is really all about. You obviously haven't a clue.

[Argranade]

I hope you never are unfortunate enough to have a close friend or family member who suffers from severe depression. As a depression sufferer, I can tell you that people with attitudes like yours make life much more difficult for those of us who have this illness.

Find a hobby to take your mind off things??? Please. Go do some research into what depression is really all about. You obviously haven't a clue.

Actualy my dad had to leave work from suffering from depresion, he would lay in bed all the time and would not even want to go outdoors, the doctor gave him pills which made things WORSE ... later on he wen't to a better doctor and you know what he told me dad? he told him to get a hobby and start running outside, taking walks ect .. to get his mind off himself and it WORKED!

My dads sister just died a month ago, he took her death VERY well!

I know alot about being depressed ALOT, I have been threw it many times when I was growing up but now that I started art, photography my life is a hole lot better because I took my mind off thinking about my life ect .... my family had and still does have MANY fights but I'm learning to take it, my birds always make me feel better and music. There my hobby.

Considering the speed in which you dispose of your "pets" you are not qualified to pass judgement.

I have helped MORE birds than I can count, so what I buy and sell birds at least I don't abuse them .. I always make sure they go to good homes, you should see all the e-mails I get from happy familys that now have life time pets!

So lay off!

[DrKym]

Actualy my dad had to leave work from suffering from depresion, he would lay in bed all the time and would not even want to go outdoors, the doctor gave him pills which made things WORSE ... later on he wen't to a better doctor and you know what he told me dad? he told him to get a hobby and start running outside, taking walks ect .. to get his mind off himself and it WORKED!

My dads sister just died a month ago, he took her death VERY well!

I know alot about being depressed ALOT, I have been threw it many times when I was growing up but now that I started art, photography my life is a hole lot better because I took my mind off thinking about my life ect .... my family had and still does have MANY fights but I'm learning to take it, my birds always make me feel better and music. There my hobby.


I have helped MORE birds than I can count, so what I buy and sell birds at least I don't abuse them .. I always make sure they go to good homes, you should see all the e-mails I get from happy familys that now have life time pets!

So lay off!

Well what a treat dear, what I would like to see is you not disposing of them on the next unsuspecting family, doing research and not posting of so many deaths.

Purchasing at yard auctions only encourages more people to fill the demand so how are you helping?

By the way how is the Ringneck? or Army? or are those we aren't allowed to discuss again?

Abuse is in the eye of those that think they don't, I have never ever met an abusive parent or animal owner that feels they are doing anything wrong.

[lizbud]

Think this thread is taking a bad turn. This thread was talking about suicide
and depression.
Everyone may have different views on what constitutes depression severe
enough to provoke a sucide response. It might be morally wrong to some
but it is a sad reality in our culture.

[Argranade]

Well what a treat dear, what I would like to see is you not disposing of them on the next unsuspecting family, doing research and not posting of so many deaths.

Purchasing at yard auctions only encourages more people to fill the demand so how are you helping?

By the way how is the Ringneck? or Army? or are those we aren't allowed to discuss again?

Abuse is in the eye of those that think they don't, I have never ever met an abusive parent or animal owner that feels they are doing anything wrong.

The auctions I go to are very nice, people from all over Ontario go there.

There are reasons for postings of deaths, many of the birds I get in like pigeons and doves are already sick so I try to do my best and make them better again for releasing, I got some pigeons from this guy hoping they where healthy and it turned out they where almost ALL sick and I ended up having almost all of them die which was very hard.

Army was given to my friend for a birthday present, I know I said I was going to keep him but she was realy wanting a small parrot for her birthday and her parents agreed it was ok. The ringneck I got was actualy about 11 years old and I wanted to start young so I sold him to a friend breeder for only $50.

It's better to give than recieve & if you remember I buy and sell birds but I'm going to be stopping this after I sell my last batch of baby doves, lovebirds & there's still 1 inured pigeon looking for a home. Later when we move I'm going to take up falconry and hunting with them.

[DrKym]

Miss Argranade,, it is people like you that make sure my rescue cages are never empty, my wallet never full. It is people like myself and many others that deal with the fallout of your "help" the birds that pluck and scream and are mentally impaired from understanding how they went from beloved pet of the week , to breeder. To raise even more unwanted animals with not enough homes. I have heard your song before from older and wiser, it still holds no water.

Try actually researching the problem you are helping. Giving your ringneck away as a breeder only ensures that more people like you (who warned that type of parrot was unsuitable) will purchase them. They will then be bought by people like you who buy with a budget and NO care for the care the animal requires. Sad but true.

Sadder still is that with your allegations of being altruistic you cannot understand the depth that an animal of any species can fill. To the point in this case of their loss not making life worth living.

My advice is you should get a hobby, reading is a good one. READ about your "beloved" birds. Learn and accept that your actions are not HELP they are harming them.

As for falconry, please do them a favor and give that idea up.

[Prairie Purrs]

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Actualy my dad had to leave work from suffering from depresion, he would lay in bed all the time and would not even want to go outdoors, the doctor gave him pills which made things WORSE ... later on he wen't to a better doctor and you know what he told me dad? he told him to get a hobby and start running outside, taking walks ect .. to get his mind off himself and it WORKED!

My dads sister just died a month ago, he took her death VERY well!

I know alot about being depressed ALOT, I have been threw it many times when I was growing up but now that I started art, photography my life is a hole lot better because I took my mind off thinking about my life ect .... my family had and still does have MANY fights but I'm learning to take it, my birds always make me feel better and music. There my hobby.

I'm glad that your father found something that worked for him. But I'm even more appalled that with a history of depression in your family that you would show so little sympathy for people who suffer from this illness. Instead, you chose to write something that caused me (and no doubt other Pet Talkers) a great deal of pain.

I have chronic depression, which has required hospitalization in the past. Right now one of my cats is probably dying. I come to Pet Talk for comfort, and I end up reading your callous, nasty posts.

Again, I recommend that you educate yourself before spouting off.

[cmayer31]

I don't know the background on the couple that hung themselves, but I do know it was a sad loss. It was sad for the friends and family of the couple; a death of any sort is terrible.

One thing that keeps coming back to me as I read the news clip is the term childless couple. I really feel that this could have attributed to the immense sorrow that led to such a tragic end. Perhaps they were unable to have children and they portrayed the role of a child in their life upon their dog in. If they raised their dog for 13 years and treated it as the child that they could not have, I could not imagine the sorrow and hopelessness that his loss would cause. There are so many other factors that seem to point to this: a burial ceremony and a feast with friends. It seems that this "just a dog" was much more than a simple pet to this couple and that the loss was too much for them to handle. I’ve seen the life fade from an elderly woman’s eyes while her husband of many, many years was laid to rest. I almost feel that this dog’s death brought on similar feelings to the couple and that it was too much for them to bear.

Either way I feel that it is a tragic loss to friends and family and we will never know the reason behind their decision.

[Vela]

I don't know the background on the couple that hung themselves, but I do know it was a sad loss. It was sad for the friends and family of the couple; a death of any sort is terrible.

One thing that keeps coming back to me as I read the news clip is the term childless couple. I really feel that this could have attributed to the immense sorrow that led to such a tragic end. Perhaps they were unable to have children and they portrayed the role of a child in their life upon their dog in. If they raised their dog for 13 years and treated it as the child that they could not have, I could not imagine the sorrow and hopelessness that his loss would cause. There are so many other factors that seem to point to this: a burial ceremony and a feast with friends. It seems that this "just a dog" was much more than a simple pet to this couple and that the loss was too much for them to handle. I’ve seen the life fade from an elderly woman’s eyes while her husband of many, many years was laid to rest. I almost feel that this dog’s death brought on similar feelings to the couple and that it was too much for them to bear.

Either way I feel that it is a tragic loss to friends and family and we will never know the reason behind their decision.

I agree with you. I also find it so very sad. I am not going to pass judgement on these people, who am I to do so? Not may place, I just feel sad for them that they truly seemed to feel this was their only option.


For those who would like to pass judgement on them, you ought to rethink your position as you never know when life might take a horrible turn for you, and you wouldn't want to be shown what kind of sorrow could cause someone to act out that way.