agreed this website sounds extremist. Horses are HUGE animals and they can be stubborn. many things on ranches actually seem cruel till you are actually out there doing it, I have heard the same stuff about stockdog training, to an outsider it seems cruel as the trainers yell at, hit the dogs and smack poles in front of the dogs, even I thought that way..till I was actually out there in the feild training my dogs on sheep, suddenly I understood that these things were needed, its not cruel its the only way to get their attention.

I mean has anyone seen what happens to animals in the orginal "My Friend Flicka"(1943)? I mean its a good movie but imagine actually being on the set working with these animals.