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    Well I tell you. I have first handedly toured the IAMS plant since I live a couple miles away. Its discusting and I wouldn't take money to feed my Collies that food. And they claim to be healthier than the grocery store brands. I guess the only thing that makes it safe is that it goes through a HACCP (Hazard Anyalisis Critical Control Point) environment. Which is an Oven. Hopefully and I say hopefully it kills all the bacteria that gets mixed into the food.
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    Iams killed 3 of my dogs from unknown cancer and made my toddler daughters immune system to shut down..
    I know what you are saying Majestic collies ( which by the way- they sure are!!!) .. It made me sick after the fact. That was when I went to raw.
    I keep bil jac as a back up in case I loose power up on this moutain. Number one they dont use a rendering plant to process, number two you add water it turns to instant mush...
    Here is my collie I had. He has since passed on but I loved him dearly. His name was Ch.Beckonridge Tri to Remember ( captain) but was to die for in appearance. I also had two more- one a white with a merle head ( charlie) , and a rescued sable..
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    Aww hes a cutie. He looks like my sisters Capt Jack from my litter in April. Here he is at 4 mos old.




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    Quote Originally Posted by borzoimom
    Iams killed 3 of my dogs from unknown cancer and made my toddler daughters immune system to shut down. I won against them and Monsanto.
    I know what you are saying Majestic collies ( which by the way- they sure are!!!) .. It made me sick after the fact. That was when I went to raw.
    I keep bil jac as a back up in case I loose power up on this moutain. Number one they dont use a rendering plant to process, number two you add water it turns to instant mush...
    Here is my collie I had. He has since passed on but I loved him dearly. His name was Ch.Beckonridge Tri to Remember ( captain) but was to die for in appearance. I also had two more- one a white with a merle head ( charlie) , and a rescued sable..
    How did dog food manage to affect your toddler daughters immune system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluebird
    How did dog food manage to affect your toddler daughters immune system?
    Because as a toddler she was eating a few pieces of dog food once in a while if I wasnt watching as I did free feed... Her immune system shut down, she ended up in NIH etc being tested for everything under the sun.. After 3 days, fine.. finally on a whim I had my dog food tested and sure enough- there it was ethoxquin in my daughter. She never got more than a piece or two- but thats alllllllllllll it took to shut it down. They say its safe beause they use it in caynee pepper and such with people but the fact is- you would have to eat 8 tablespoons of it every day, day after day to get the same as the dog does in their bowl...
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    Not all kibbles are created equal, that's for sure. I feed raw but I atleast know what to look for in a kibble. Every kibble-fed dog I've had has had some sort of health issue. I look back and KNOW that a raw diet could have prevented it.
    I've been BOO'd!

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    I feel the same way. Raw would have prevented the 3 deaths of my dogs, as well as keeping my toddler safe. Those months with her on those tests, and what they were testing her for, allllllll seems like a hellish nighmare.
    Caution to parents- if you have a toddler, either dont use kibble diets, or put it up unless the dog is actually eating it. My daughter went through child gates ... I had no clue, althought I didnt like it, that a food my dogs were eating would be anything other than a choking hazard for my baby.. NONE.. I mean one piece a day of a found dog kibble on the floor caused all that?? I am a beliver now..
    * by the way- now she is 20)

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    Raw would have prevented the 3 deaths of my dogs, as well as keeping my toddler safe. Those months with her on those tests, and what they were testing her for, allllllll seems like a hellish nighmare.
    Not necessarily! If a toddler were to manage to sneak a bite or two of raw food a day; the results could also be very serious.

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    Eating difficulties

    Bobbie is my first dog so I am quite illiterate as far as dog raising goes. I follow whatever our vet tells us, but lately I am thinking that perhaps this is not the road to follow.

    My 4 year old medium sized Griffon was brought up on whatever handouts were provided as she was raised on the streets in the "care" of a homeless alcoholic. Handouts consisted of potato chips, French fries, sandwiches, nuts and God knows what else. After having adopted her, we have tried to get her to eat dog food. We have tried all leading brands and the only one she grudgingly eats and that on occasion is PEDIGREE dry food and FROLIC dry food. Forget the canned stuff. She turns her nose on that.

    She loves fish, chicken and meat in general, spaghetti or any kind of past, dairy products and doggie treats, especially salmon kibbles and smoke flavoured bone chews.

    Both vets we have taken her to, insist on feeding her HILLS or SCIENCE PLAN "in order to avoid later health problems". I suspect however that they are promoting these labels for their own interest. They also said to leave her without food for 2-3 days in order to teach her to eat dog food. Well sorry, but after 3 days I couldn’t bear sitting at the table and having her watch our every spoonful.

    I have tried cooking various fish or meats with rice or pasta (no onions or salt added) and included a little grated carrots or zucchini in hope that she would get some vitamins in her. Somehow she managed to eat all the fish or meats and leave the rest on her plate.


    I have read in many of your comments that you feed your dogs raw food. The vets however are very stern about avoiding raw meats. Can you please give me some advice on what to feed her? Perhaps I should give her some dog vitamins as a supplement?

    I want to keep her healthy but also have her live a happy life.

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