Phoenix&Nakita - *Update Sept.20th*Feedback please..

[sasvermont]

Well, this sounds as though things are running smoothly. It takes time. It could go on like this forever or you can just bite the bullet and let them alone to work it out. It doesn't sound as though either kitty will fight the other one until death. I would be tempted to let them at each other all day long and keep them apart, if necessary, at night, so that you could get some sleep!

I have found that by playing with both cats at the same time, with a very exciting toy, they sorta learn to "share"...taking turns swatting at the toy.... a fishing pole thingie is what I have in mind.....something that they both cannot resist playing with.......

It sounds as though things are fine there.....good job!

[jenluckenbach]

all seems Perfectly normal!

Nakita flew down Rob's side and chased Phoenix (full menacing growl and jumped towards Phoenix but didn't make contact) approx. 3 metres out of the kitchen and then Nakita ran upstairs to hide under the bed

Here Nakita is teaching Phoenix that Rob is HER'S! The fact that she had no physical contact with Phoenix shows it was just a lesson.

- Phoenix fell asleep on the radiator, Nakita walked up to her cautiously but Phoenix woke up and both cats became tense, I separated them

Part 1 is good. Nakita initiated going up to Phoenix. BUT I would not have seperated them at that moment. Let them interact next time.

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I would keep allowing Phoenix out shile you are there to supervise, and seperate when you are away or asleep. Phoenix seems to be showing no signs of wanting to be dominant, which is good. Nakita will adjust. I guarrentee it!

[Russian Blue]

Thanks for the feedback!

Nakita will adjust. I guarrentee it!

Today, all Nakita did was growl and sit higher up from Phoenix. My concern comes when they meet face to face on the floor level. Today that happened and both their back went up with a death stare from Nakita.

Right now, I can't see how Nakita is going to get over this and I hate this hierarchy posturing. I just don't want to see this lead to a full blown fur fight.

[catmandu]

I remember when Pouncer used to chase Scrappy around and hiss and swat at him.
And yet they became the Very Soul of Cat Friendship, the Veritable Damon and Phythias of the Cat World.
I think that Nakita and Phoenix will grow to be friends, it will take time as Nakita is so used to being THE CAT!!!!

[RedHedd]

Thanks for the feedback!
Right now, I can't see how Nakita is going to get over this and I hate this hierarchy posturing. I just don't want to see this lead to a full blown fur fight.

Nakita will get over it - it will take time. Mitzi was like this when I brought Mishi in. They were fine after a few weeks of supervised meetings. Hang in there. If they're like my two, in three years you'll be posting cuddle pics!

[rosethecopycat]

You are doing good.

Nakita is acting like my Bella does with the foster kittens.
I don't think you'll arrive at a fur fight, as adults don't tend to beat up kittens that bad.
The slower the better with integration, have you tried a playpen (cage) for the kitten in plain sight, in the middle of the room?
You can give Nakita all the attention, while she doesn't feel threatened by Phoenix coming too close. Don't worry about the baby, nothing really offends them, they are very resilient. You can give her affection, in another room, away from Miss Nakita.

They will come around, it usually takes mine a couple weeks to relax around new kittens.

[Russian Blue]

Hang in there. If they're like my two, in three years you'll be posting cuddle pics!

3 Years?!?! Ill really be gray then, better get the hair colouring kit.

The slower the better with integration, have you tried a playpen (cage) for the kitten in plain sight, in the middle of the room?
You can give Nakita all the attention, while she doesn't feel threatened by Phoenix coming too close

That's exactly the problem that is happening. I go to play or talk to Nakita and Phoenix comes running with me which makes things tense. I'll have to see if I can construct something like that. Thanks for the idea!

Yesterday was the first time I saw Phoenix trying 'push' Nakita's limits or simply she was playing. Nakita was trying to eat (her food is temporarily beside the couch) and Phoenix would jump on the couch and tower over her. This is the first video, which was the calm before the storm. After this video Phoenix acted like she was going to jump on Nakita, Nakita growled loudly then moved away.

Here's the video: Nakita & Phoenix

[smokey the elder]

Years ago, I got Mobius when I had Smokey the Elder. I didn't have anywhere to isolate the kitten who was 4 months old at the time. I just kept a wary eye on them and the squirt bottle handy if there ever was any serious fights. There was much growling, hissing and posturing on Smokey's part, for a couple of weeks. Then one night I got home, and they were arm-in-arm cuddling on the couch! Someplace I have a film pic that I should scan in if I can ever find it.

There is hope for even a princess to make friends. Just give it time. It sounds like it's actually going OK.

[sasvermont]

I promise it will change.

Right now I have four. Juni and Miley don't like each other. They fight when I am around...jealous I suppose. Every now and then I find them grooming each other. Go figure.

[K & L]

We're so different from most people. We seclude new cats until we're sure there are no health issues, then we just let them out among the rest. We've had some hissing and running, but never any major problems. Seems this has worked best for us. I know it's not the standard, but it's never failed us.

[rosethecopycat]

[QUOTE=Russian Blue]3 Years?!?! Ill really be gray then, better get the hair colouring kit.



That's exactly the problem that is happening. I go to play or talk to Nakita and Phoenix comes running with me which makes things tense. I'll have to see if I can construct something like that. Thanks for the idea!

Yesterday was the first time I saw Phoenix trying 'push' Nakita's limits or simply she was playing. Nakita was trying to eat (her food is temporarily beside the couch) and Phoenix would jump on the couch and tower over her. This is the first video, which was the calm before the storm. After this video Phoenix acted like she was going to jump on Nakita, Nakita growled loudly then moved away.


Yes, kittens are rude. I have 3 that I'm trying to keep away from Bella and Malfi, at least at mealtimes. They are like little steamrollers. At least, they are not offended either, when they get pushed away. They forgive you, the adults can hold a grudge, like Bella.

[Russian Blue]

Did I really see that with my own eyes?!? Yep, caught it with the camera earlier today!



Only 11 days into the process and I think the obstacles are slowly starting to come down. Don't mind the green floors - previous owners painted them with outdoor paint ( ) and they will be the last things to be replaced on our long renovation list.

I wanted to thank everyone in this thread for the 'hand holding' - Catmandu, Sasvermont, RedHedd, KAK, Jen, Smokey The Elder, Kimlovescats, Barbara, Rosethecopycat!!!!! What would I have done without you guys? Your posts kept me sane through this cat introduction process. It's not over yet, but it's a start! Woohoo...

And right now, Nakita is sleeping on the computer monitor and Phoenix is sleeping in the cat condo right behind me!! Maybe now I can finally get some sleep.....

[ramanth]

3 Years?!?! Ill really be gray then, better get the hair colouring kit.

It only took Zam and Logan about a year to two years to start cuddling. Now they groom each other, wrestle, and cuddle constantly.

Sounds like Nakita and Phoenix will be pals in no time.

[shais_mom]

It only took Zam and Logan about a year to two years to start cuddling. Now they groom each other, wrestle, and cuddle constantly.

Sounds like Nakita and Phoenix will be pals in no time.

and they are MOM AND SON! course they don't know that!
I was kind of like K & L - course I probably shouldn't have been. I picked Kloe up (2 years ago today ) and took her to the vet - brought her home - kept her sequestered in the bathroom when I was at work and sleeping b/c she was so little but other then that she was out with the 'big girls'. Kylie tolerates Kloe to some extent but most of the time they ignore each other. I think that Kloe tries to challenge Kylie for "top Cat" position but Kylie is bigger tho declawed (when I got her) and I always interevene when I'm around.
Good Luck to YOU!