I forgot to say also, that I do agree that most breeds, not including the extreme ones like lhasa and shih tzus, dont need to be shaved. Like I know someone whe shaves there golden every year, I dont think that help much. Same with various shepards and such. Some do it to get rid of the clumps they can lose when shedding... dont get the dog if you cant handle taking care of it as it comes...