Well Ash is still not eating anything, has had nothing today, have not seen him drink so i have syringed some water into him whether he likes it or not, he is otherwise quite happy believe it or not, sunning himself in the lovely pacific sun, and still being cute and rolling over for his tummy to be patted, so that is always a good sign that he is still alert and aware of everything, maybe it is his teeth, let us hope so , and i can get him fixed, will keep you posted tomorrow, and thanks everyone, cinder and smoke you always bring a smile to my face with your cute messages, thanks to all concerned, Ash and I appreciate it.