Thanks guys! I'm really hoping that there will be a few nice-looking pups. They will have good structure for sure, and it looks like Orsam does throw nice bodies. It's the head and ears I'm worried about -- I'm doubling up on the likeliness of coarse heads and bad ears lol.

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Is this the breeder who bred Mals and Groens? It sounds promising.. cause my girl comes from working lines with successful FR dogs.. and then breeding her to one of the males from Visa's litter should produce awesome working dogs! Excited!
Nope, Orsam is in France, but the working groen breeder in the US is the one importing the semen. She is doing a breeding with him this year, I believe. There are a couple of other breeders (who've met her pups out of Orsam) who are now interested in him too. His pups are very social and have wowed alot of Belgian people. Funny how that works -- the working dogs have the show personality, the show dogs are freaks lol.
I was thinking the same thing -- I was thinking that you could breed your mal to one of Visa's pups. I'd like a progeny of one of those so she has long enough hair to show. And with that pup I can do a linebreeding on Scaper (Visa's grandisre) or Spirit (her dam). I'd like to mix the work-oriented showlines with the working lines for both working ability and conformation, and then do linebreeding for temperament.