Milo and Otis- What a HORRIBLE movie!!!!

**luckies4me** · 02-28-2004, 01:04 PM

Well geez, everyone here knows I am overemotional anyway LOL!

Truly, I calmed down a long time ago so I don't think bringing up fighting over and over is doing any good.

My stepfather is Japanese. His last name is Yoshitake, kinda like the mushrooms. Turns out he has the original film of this in his dad's (not alive anymore) collection or whatever. His father was the run who ran the Japanese Heritage Club in Southern California. According to my stepfather laws in Japan towards animals are pretty much zilch, and according to him, the parts of this movie that were edited were not because it was something us Americans could not understand, it was because certain portions of the movie would be upsetting to us Americans. My family is moving here this Summer. They are coming here for Spring break to search for a house. Once they get here I will make sure to watch this "original" movie and then I will come to my decision on it. As of now, I won't pass judgement on anyone until I learn a little more from my stepfather. His whole family is from Japan, so I can learn a lot. Funny, him being Japanese and he can barely speak it!

And as far as it being "just a movie", you're wrong. It wasn't just a movie, there were live animals in that movie that had a *chance* of being abused. Now, of course I have no proof but through what I hear from my father. Even if this movie was made a long time ago, and if I had proof of it being abusive towards animals during filming, there IS something I could do. I could start a petition for people to boycott this movie, and have people stop selling it. There's always something you can do.

Now again, we are all calm, so no need to bring it up furthur.

**wolfsoul** · 02-28-2004, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by luckies4me
According to my stepfather laws in Japan towards animals are pretty much zilch

I have a friend from Japan, and she says this as well. I don't think I said anything about the Japanese not liking animals --- I simply stated that they don't have strong laws when it comes to animals. I never said they weren't people either. It just bothers me that someone might think I'm suddenly racist just because I said Japan doesn't have good animal laws. I know a few laws in Canada that I'm not happy with, including some animal laws. It doesn't mean I think all Canadians hate animals.

**luckies4me** · 02-28-2004, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by wolfsoul
I have a friend from Japan, and she says this as well. I don't think I said anything about the Japanese not liking animals --- I simply stated that they don't have strong laws when it comes to animals. I never said they weren't people either. It just bothers me that someone might think I'm suddenly racist just because I said Japan doesn't have good animal laws. I know a few laws in Canada that I'm not happy with, including some animal laws. It doesn't mean I think all Canadians hate animals.

Exactly. No one here said we were against the Japanese or that no Japanese person cared for animals. I know that to not be true, since I have many Japanese people in my family. Denny, my dad, LOVES animals! I mean, gee, they have three cats, a fire bellied toad (which my brother has had for ten years!!! can you believe it?

), plus the tiels and budgie etc. He grew up with dogs and used to have two Golden Retrievers. He is an animal lover just like us Americans.

**K9soul** · 02-28-2004, 02:04 PM

Hehe, if I claimed I wasn't oversensitive or overemotional sometimes, it sure would be turning a blind eye to a big part of my personality. I'm so strongly affected by things, and I too have to stay away from certain kinds of movies even if it's obviously fiction, because it just affects me too much. I really get into a book when I'm reading it, and I really get into a movie too.

The worst type of movie for me, is the psychotic killer type movies. I get so disturbed by those that if I watch one I can be affected long after the fact, just in my dreams, and it invading my thoughts and the visuals stuck in my head. I just try to steer clear of those types of shows.

So I would most definitely nominate myself first for the oversensitive award

**wolf_Q** · 02-28-2004, 10:25 PM

Just because of all the controversy going on here I borrowed my friend's copy of the movie and watched it tonight.

I hadn't seen it in many years, and I remember I loved that show as a child.

After watching it, many of the scenes did seem cruel to me. Both of the animals (especially Milo) seem scared to death almost the entire movie. I'm sure some of the things were fake, but most of them looked real and the animals looked miserable and possibly placed in danger.

It also promotes irresponsible breeding of animals.

However, I must agree it's really not worth getting all worked up about considering the movie was made such a long time ago; there's not much you can do now.

**carole** · 02-29-2004, 06:50 PM

Crikit thank you for explaining your post to me, I understand what you are saying.

It will be interesting what Cass has to say after seeing the un-edited version, and I agree with you Cass, just because the movie is old does not mean nothing can be done about it, if it is indeed too late for milo and Otis, then we can be more aware for future movies coming up, I for one will be taking much more notice from now on, other stories like 101 dalmations, stuart little all featured animals, maybe we should look at these as well, I have seen both, but cannot remember if there were any suspect scenes in either can you?

I thank Cass for bringing this to my attention, and will be much more aware of this type of thing from now on.

And that in MO can only be a good thing.

**luckies4me** · 02-29-2004, 07:04 PM

Carol, it seems like Spring break is forever from now. That's how long I have to wait to see the movie! Hopefully I can convince them to maybe send it to me or something. I am really curious to see it!