Cinder & Smoke
09-27-2001, 12:40 PM
Pet Talkers, we may have a problem posting photos "stored" on off-site photo album sites...
Our months old WebShots album suddenly has no photos available for viewing :(. This MAY be due to a sudden problem which might have developed on the WebShots site; but I fear it may be a more serious problem...
Some of us have used "other" web Photo Storage and Viewing sites besides WebShots. Many of those "other" site stopped allowing "their" photos to be "used or displayed" on sites such as our Pet Talk site.
Here's a section from the WebShots "Terms of Service" page - the agreement you/we agreed to when we first stored photos on their site...
"6. What Can I Do With Materials Provided By Webshots?
All of the material on the Webshots Site is protected by the copyright laws of the U. S. and other countries. You are only allowed to use these materials as indicated on the Webshots site; other uses are prohibited by copyright laws.
All of the material contained in the Webshots Gallery, the Webshots Daily Photos, and the Webshots Desktop software program may be viewed only on the Webshots Site. You may not copy, reproduce, retransmit, distribute, publish, commercially exploit or otherwise transfer any copyrighted material in any format, electronic or otherwise."
I fear that WebShots may be doing what a lot of the "other" photo album sites have done - Refusing to allow their site content (photos) to be DISPLAYED on BBS sites, like we all do. When we post an IMAGE for direct and instant display, we're also possibly breaking the rule to "...not copy, retransmit or reproduce..." And photos displayed on Pet Talk are certainly not "...viewed on the WebShots Site...".
If we just post a LINK, so the reader has to "click" on a link and then actually GO TO the WebShots site to SEE the photo; that's probaly OK with WebShots because that's what they want folks to have to do - VISIT THEIR site to see the paid ads and offers.
This problem apperars to be one of both US Copyright Law, AND web site revenue. I'm NOT a Copyright expert - do we have a lawyer in the group that could comment?
As for the revenue issue - the Photo Album Folks probably have a right to get *krankee* about this issue. After all, we post and store our stuff on THEIR expensive storage systems; then just USE them to provide us with a picture when ever and where ever we want to display it. Maybe it's not right for us to be expecting this kind of service for "free"?
That said; does anybody know of a Photo Archive and Posting site that DOES SPECIFICALLY ALLOW their photos to be posted and instantly displayed on a BBS? Note from the above comments - there is a BIG difference between LINKING, where the viewer must visit the hosting photo site to view the picture, and "URL / DISPLAYING" the photo, where the viewer can instantly SEE the photo without the viewer having to visit the hosting site.
I hope I'm wrong with all of this, but please post whatever you know or have learned about the subject.
Our months old WebShots album suddenly has no photos available for viewing :(. This MAY be due to a sudden problem which might have developed on the WebShots site; but I fear it may be a more serious problem...
Some of us have used "other" web Photo Storage and Viewing sites besides WebShots. Many of those "other" site stopped allowing "their" photos to be "used or displayed" on sites such as our Pet Talk site.
Here's a section from the WebShots "Terms of Service" page - the agreement you/we agreed to when we first stored photos on their site...
"6. What Can I Do With Materials Provided By Webshots?
All of the material on the Webshots Site is protected by the copyright laws of the U. S. and other countries. You are only allowed to use these materials as indicated on the Webshots site; other uses are prohibited by copyright laws.
All of the material contained in the Webshots Gallery, the Webshots Daily Photos, and the Webshots Desktop software program may be viewed only on the Webshots Site. You may not copy, reproduce, retransmit, distribute, publish, commercially exploit or otherwise transfer any copyrighted material in any format, electronic or otherwise."
I fear that WebShots may be doing what a lot of the "other" photo album sites have done - Refusing to allow their site content (photos) to be DISPLAYED on BBS sites, like we all do. When we post an IMAGE for direct and instant display, we're also possibly breaking the rule to "...not copy, retransmit or reproduce..." And photos displayed on Pet Talk are certainly not "...viewed on the WebShots Site...".
If we just post a LINK, so the reader has to "click" on a link and then actually GO TO the WebShots site to SEE the photo; that's probaly OK with WebShots because that's what they want folks to have to do - VISIT THEIR site to see the paid ads and offers.
This problem apperars to be one of both US Copyright Law, AND web site revenue. I'm NOT a Copyright expert - do we have a lawyer in the group that could comment?
As for the revenue issue - the Photo Album Folks probably have a right to get *krankee* about this issue. After all, we post and store our stuff on THEIR expensive storage systems; then just USE them to provide us with a picture when ever and where ever we want to display it. Maybe it's not right for us to be expecting this kind of service for "free"?
That said; does anybody know of a Photo Archive and Posting site that DOES SPECIFICALLY ALLOW their photos to be posted and instantly displayed on a BBS? Note from the above comments - there is a BIG difference between LINKING, where the viewer must visit the hosting photo site to view the picture, and "URL / DISPLAYING" the photo, where the viewer can instantly SEE the photo without the viewer having to visit the hosting site.
I hope I'm wrong with all of this, but please post whatever you know or have learned about the subject.