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Sudilar
04-07-2001, 09:38 AM
There's a beautiful female GSD named Willie up for adoption at Chicagoland Shepherd Rescue www.gsdr.org. (http://www.gsdr.org.) Here she is:
http://www.gsdr.org/images/willie.jpg
If I didn't have two GSDs already, I would love to adopt her myself!!
Sue

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tatsxxx11
04-07-2001, 03:57 PM
Oh Willie, you are just gorgeous. I wish I could take you home. http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/frown.gif I pray that you find the most loving and caring forever home. All my love to you beautiful girl. WHAT a magnificent animal. If I learn of anyone in your area ready to adopt, I will certainly refer them to you!

Angels3
04-07-2001, 06:54 PM
For some reason, the pic wouldn't open completely for me. But good on you for helping to find a good home for a lovely dog.
Now where does Phred live? Just joking, Cinder Dog & the Smoke!!!

04-07-2001, 09:01 PM
Angels ~ Cinder here ~ Dad sez he's gonna buy a chunk of chain link fence to nail up across the front porch http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/redface.gif. And he reminded me it's gettin a liddel *crowded* onna BigBed.

"Willie" stands a great chance of getting dopted if her web picture gets circulated - that's how Dad found me. Without my web picture he'd never have driven so far to visit my jail - the picture made him do it. To bad more shelters an jails can't take and post nice pictures of the inmates lookin for homes.

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/s/ Cinder & Smokey
the Rescued & Adopted
FurKids of *Phred*

Angels3
04-07-2001, 09:46 PM
Cinder Dog, your dear old Dad might put a barrier across his front porch but there's no barrier that could fit across his big heart when it comes to dogs in need.
You're so right that this lovely pic should be circulated because it would help Willie get a good home. I wonder if they've put her pic on that wonderful Pet Finders site you have there in the US of A.

Sudilar
04-08-2001, 04:07 PM
I found out that Willie is two years old.

Catluvr
04-10-2001, 08:16 AM
Willy is beautiful! I wish that I could adopt him but I already have 2 dogs! I wish you the best in finding the perfect home!!

Sudilar
04-10-2001, 09:36 AM
Willie is supposed to be at the Adoption Event on Saturday at the Pet Supplies Plus store in Berwyn, IL from 1:00-4:00. Heaven help me, I just might go see her. (I really can't handle 3 big dogs, or can I?????)
Sue

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***Save a life, ADOPT***

Freckles
04-10-2001, 10:46 AM
Sudilar, Sure you can!

tatsxxx11
04-10-2001, 11:51 AM
Of course you can, silly Sudilar, you are superwoman!! I have every confidence in you! Besides, they say the human brain connects best with "groups of 3!" http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/biggrin.gif

Sudilar
04-10-2001, 01:38 PM
LOL! http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif Now, how do I convince hubby that we NEED a third GSD?

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wolflady
04-10-2001, 03:11 PM
Sudilar, go for it!! Willie looks like a really sweet cuddly dog. Oh, I wish I could take her home!!!:-)
Now, I have to convince my husband for our first dog.... http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/biggrin.gif

jackiesdaisy1935
04-10-2001, 03:17 PM
Sudilar, Willie looks so loving and sweet
you will never be able to pass her up. You never know it might be fate!!!!


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Corinna
04-10-2001, 03:39 PM
Sudler, You get Willie. You can always replace a husband(or threaten to) after 22years mine just asks how much more dog food (or any other ) food do we need to order? They get used to it after 2 dogs it's all the same.Iused to say we could have another human kid. I sure ended up with lots of critters. @ kids were enough for us. Good luck Corinna

Karen
04-10-2001, 06:22 PM
If she gets along with your other dogs, why not? http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif (Says Karen the troublemaker who lives safely too far away for a "casual let's just go see" pretense for a drive!) Maybe she'll be adopted before you get there, if so, you'll know it wasn't meant to be, right? http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif

Sudilar
04-10-2001, 06:29 PM
OK, now I'm talking to the foster Mom by e-mail and another case worker......I'm getting in deeper and deeper. Maybe it will snow Saturday and I won't be able to get to Berwyn????? What to tell hubby?

Freckles
04-10-2001, 06:35 PM
Just tell hubby your PetTalk friends say YES!!

Pam
04-10-2001, 07:20 PM
I vote for Sudilar as Willie's new mom!! http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif You are definitely getting in deeper and deeper! What have you learned from the foster mom? Fill us in all about Willie.

Jackie...By the way, love your little puppy insert. http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/biggrin.gif

Karen (aka Wolflady)...Go take the plunge and get a dog! Have your cats ever lived with a dog before?

[This message has been edited by Pam (edited April 10, 2001).]

Angels3
04-10-2001, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by Sudilar:
What to tell hubby?

Sudilar, tell him he can choose between a 3rd GSD or a 2nd husband in the family. That should simplify matters.

04-10-2001, 08:22 PM
Cinder here ~

But of course, Sudilar, we wouldn't want you the think that enewun here is trying to put any *pressure* on you! http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/biggrin.gif

Oh, Heavens NO! We won't lean on you any harder than everbody dun when we wuz werkin on getting Smokey moved in as a permnent part of our ranch. And Dad sez it'll be reel easy ta get a new boyfriend if yer Hub wanders off - guyz like gurls wiffa *nice dog* (or three :eek http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif.

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/s/ Cinder & Smokey
the Rescued & Adopted
FurKids of *Phred*

jackiesdaisy1935
04-10-2001, 08:27 PM
Sudilar, just think of all the Aunts and Uncles from Petoftheday that Willie would have!!!!!!! In a sense, we would all be adopting her!
Thanks Pam!!!!

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RachelJ
04-10-2001, 08:42 PM
Sue, I hope your hubby is not a cranky, hard-hearted, "you're not going to turn this house into a kennel" type like someone I know.

Karen
04-10-2001, 09:26 PM
Okay, I'll be serious for a moment. Only you know your home, your husband, your schedule and your dogs enough to know whether this would be a good idea. We all love the idea of another dog getting a good home, hence the overwhelming enthusiasm for the adoption. But you know, I hope, that even if the circumstances won't work, or Willie finds another home, you and your current pooches will still be valauble members of our community here.

P.S. Bring extra biscuits for the dogs if you do go! http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif

Logan
04-10-2001, 10:04 PM
Whew! If you wait a while to check in around here, you miss a lot!!! Sue, do you have pressure or what? Maybe you asked for by hinting that willie was irresistable. My thought is this...if you don't have human kids to worry about (and even if you do), but if you think you can make a home for this girl, and your husband won't leave you over it, go for her. You obviously are smitten!! I would "kill" for another Golden Retriever, but I know I absolutely don't have the time or room for another. Just go with your heart, and your husband's! LOL! And most of all, let us know what you decide!
Logan

Sudilar
04-10-2001, 10:20 PM
I feel no pressure here. (LOL) You guys are a riot! http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gifEven though I would LOVE to adopt many many homeless GSDs that are out there, I have to weigh all the pros and cons. I am really seriously thinking about going to visit the Berwyn store and meeting Willie and then we'll see what happens!
Pam asked what the foster Mom had to say: She said that Willie would for sure get along with my male, but depending on the temperament of my female, she could possibly get along with her. She then asked questions about how Shiloh gets along with other females and if she is dominant or submissive.
Those are hard questions to answer. Shiloh is submissive to Killian, but if any outside dog challenges her, she won't tolerate it. She allows me to pay attention to Killian, but I must also pay attention to her. She also sleeps with me at night. I guess you might say she's attached to me. I wouldn't want any dominance problems, especially if one would get hurt.
So I guess I have a lot to consider. Anyone with 3 dogs have any advice? These are all dogs who weigh about as much as I do.
Thanks for all your help, guys. I really would LOVE to adopt Willie, but the question is should I?
Sue

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Angels3
04-10-2001, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by Sudilar:

Thanks for all your help, guys. I really would LOVE to adopt Willie, but the question is should I?
Sue



And with all our jokes & urging aside, you are the only one that can answer the question. As somebody else said, only you & your husband know your circumstances. Whatever you decide to do will be OK...because you are giving so much thought to it.

Sudilar
04-10-2001, 10:41 PM
Would anyone with 3 dogs like to give me some insight into what it's like? Pros and cons? Thanks! http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif

Angels3
04-10-2001, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by Sudilar:
Would anyone with 3 dogs like to give me some insight into what it's like? Pros and cons? Thanks! http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif

We own 3 dogs...a tibetan spaniel & 2 elderly shelties. We had just 2 dogs for a while & then got the 3rd. Frankly, there isn't much difference between owning 2 or 3. The main negative difference is that vet costs are triple instead of double. I can't think of other negatives.
A main positive is that we can always take 1 dog somewere...like to the vet or to do pet therapy...& the other 2 have each other for company. When we owned only 2 dogs, it broke their hearts ever to be parted...& the one left at home would tend to play up a bit.
I'd be interested to hear others' experiences.

aly
04-10-2001, 11:15 PM
I think having three dogs would be good for the reasons Angels3 mentioned. I think you have to have the right dogs for this though. A dog behaviorist told me that most dogs do best in groups of even numbers. One example of this sticks out in my mind... We have playgroups at the shelter so dogs can run off energy with their doggy friends and be more content once they get back to their kennels. One time we had Danny (dalmatian) playing with Homer (pitbull). They often played together and got along great every session. There was another dog, Nadia (malamute) who had been in a playgroup with both Danny and Homer seperately and got along with each of them every time. We decided to bring Nadia and one other dog in so all four could play together. We brought Nadia in first and she jumped into the play with Danny and Homer. Before we could even get the fourth dog out, Danny had mounted Nadia and was being very dominant and mouthy. Nadia didn't want any part of it and snapped back toward Danny. A few of the volunteers had to yell so they would stop fighting and we took Danny back to his kennel. This group of three happened to bring out the dominant side of Danny. I think most dogs who get along with other dogs won't have a problem in a group of three but you sometimes have to be careful in these instances.

You know, I just realized.. what if that's the same thing that happened when I brought Reece home.. 3 animals and Harley got so dominant that it also released his chasing/nipping instinct http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/confused.gif Well, I actually did keep Reece at my sister's for three days once to see if Harley would behave around Shiloh again but that didn't work so maybe not..

Gio
04-11-2001, 06:27 AM
I think you are half way there already Sudilar. One of the last times I said "Let's see what happens" is when I took a stray kitten home, we also added "until we find a home for him". Well my "provisional cat" is still with me after 18 years.

Since I live in an apartment I can only keep cats for the time being, but in my experience 3 is not much more work than 2. As for the vet, everytime I go to the surgery and he asks for the surname he says "Oh it's one of the mob" (between me and my sister we have a number of pets registered) and often gives me a family discount!

Please keep us posted!

[This message has been edited by Gio (edited April 11, 2001).]

Pam
04-11-2001, 07:55 AM
Sudilar....It sounds as if you weaken further (and you're pretty much there!) and bring Willie home, that the dogs themselves may provide you with your answer. Shiloh may hold the key. It may very well be that if she accepts Willie it may be a "go." As others have said, it is your decision and we certainly don't want you to feel pressured into doing something you don't feel comfortable doing. Anyway, we'll be waiting to hear what happens. http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif

AdoreMyDogs
04-11-2001, 08:01 AM
Sue,

I am so happy that you are thinking about Willie. She's a beauty and she deservs a good home like yours. It's a shame that anyone could have given up a dog like that, I can't understand why because she's incredibly beautiful and kind looking, but hopefully she'll have a happy ending. I wish I could take her.

wolflady
04-11-2001, 11:35 AM
It's great that you're seriously thinking about adopting Willie. It's good to find out all the info you can and see if she would fit into your home or not. Maybe bring your 2 dogs with you to visit Willie on neutral ground and see how they react to each other. I'm sure everyone here agrees that it would be great if you could adopt her, but it's definitely something that you and your husband should feel is right. We wish you all the best of luck and definitely keep us posted!!! http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif Some of us here live vicariously through others at the moment...LOL...so I enjoy hearing all the stories of peoples canine furkids and the adoptions that happen!! I'm still waiting for the time to be right since we work such long hours. Pam, my 2 kitties haven't been around dogs before...so I'm I have a couple of concerns. I am wanting to do a rescue...but would an older dog be more scary (because of their size) to my kitties? A puppy would be more their size but so much more exuberant....ah...decisions decisions....

Pam
04-11-2001, 11:55 AM
Karen...You do have a lot to think about there. http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif My cats had lived with dogs before, although not for 3 years. When I brought Bella home they hid and didn't eat, etc. I was a basket case for about a week. Gradually over time that has all changed. They play together now, although I do monitor them to make sure it doesn't get too rough because of Bella's size....15 lbs. and growing....will be about 50 lbs when full grown.

I had originally wanted to get a rescue dog. Hubby wanted only a poodle and I couldn't find one in good health or that wasn't a "senior." He also felt that a puppy would be best because we would know the background. Picking the right breed is important also. I had researched pugs (love those pugglies!) and thought they would be excellent with my kitties. The vet agreed. Said they are a great breed. Hubby still wanted his poodle so that's what we got. Maybe someday a pug.... Anyway there are LOTS of great breeds out there that would do well with cats. Whatever you do, I know you will give it lots of thought so I am sure it will work out. Tell Marius that Andy says dogs are not so bad. http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/biggrin.gif

ownerof3dogs
04-11-2001, 04:37 PM
If it's having three dogs your worried about, TRUST me it really no different than having two dogs. The only thing you have to concider is space, time, and money(it not that much more)
From my own personal veiw I love having three dogs. You are NEVER lonely. And you get to have three different personalities. I get a dog that is mellow and loving(Felice) I get a dog that is athletic and energetic(Zeus) and I get a dog that is a lovey dovey baby who is the best watch dog(Hercules)

But in the end it all comes down to if you REALLY want another dog

I would take if a could. She is just sweet looking and BIG.

[This message has been edited by ownerof3dogs (edited April 11, 2001).]

wolflady
04-12-2001, 05:32 PM
Pam, thanks for the info. Yes, I think some of those reasons are why my hubby and I (well...mostly me, he's not as gung ho about the whole dog thing as I am http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/biggrin.gif) are waiting until our lives are less spent commuting! ugh!! It is amazing everything one must consider before brining a dog into the family, and since I know we'll probably be having children sometime down the road, the dog will have to adjust to changes like that.

Bella is absolutely adorable! I'm glad everything is working out. It is a good example for my husband! LOL See, this really can work! http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/biggrin.gif
I have faith that you'll get your puglet someday! http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/wink.gif In the meantime, enjoy the puppy antics and kitty quirks and keep us posted on what's going on with your kids!!
P.S. Marius says "Dawg? What's a dawg???!!!" =^..^=
If he only knew....LOL

RachelJ
04-14-2001, 06:49 PM
It's Saturday....What happened Sue...did you go?

pyrlab
05-14-2001, 04:50 PM
What did you decide?? I think you should do it...you're doing this cute face a favor! He's so cute! There are so many dogs that need homes...I wish I could save them all!!!: http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif

Sudilar
05-14-2001, 07:44 PM
Thanks for asking Pyrlab!
Here's an excerpt from Willie's story:

Well, I went to see Willie today. Sadly, we did not adopt her.
She is a beautiful, large girl with scars on her nose and a broken tooth. She is very watchful of and attached to her foster Dad (who picked her up from the Chicago Pound). She was there for a while (The Pound) because she was evidence in a drug bust. She was their guard dog. After meeting her, I can't see that she would have been any good at it, she's too nice. She does seem to watch everything happening, but I didn't see any meanness in her. She is very strong. She was sweet, though. The Chicagoland Shepherd director thought that she should not be placed in a home with another female who was so close to her own age. She felt that there would be a dominance issue between the females. The director suggusted a male for my group.
There were some very nice shepherds at the event. The newly rescued were so skinny! It was sad. I wanted to take them all home.
There was a really cute little mix (35 lbs.) that looked like a GSD, but really small. They called her a "pocket Shepherd".
We spent 4 hours with the dogs and I can't believe I didn't bring one home.
I guess Willie wasn't meant to be. I hope they find her a good home. I'm sure they will.
Update: Willie still has not been adopted
http://www.gsdr.org/images/williepatrols.jpg



[This message has been edited by Sudilar (edited May 14, 2001).]

Logan
05-14-2001, 07:53 PM
Oh Sue...I'm hating your update. No takers yet??? I sure wish I knew of a way to help.

Keep us posted.
Logan

Sudilar
05-14-2001, 08:46 PM
I can't believe she hasn't been adopted yet, either. She is beautiful. If it weren't for the incompatibility issue, I'd adopt her in an instant. Hopefully she'll find her forever home soon!

aly
05-14-2001, 11:31 PM
I just joined some Illinois rescue mailing lists so I can keep my eye out for someone in your area wanting a GSD http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif

Sudilar
05-15-2001, 10:01 AM
Oh, that would be so wonderful!!!! She is such a beautiful dog. Thanks, aly, you're a gem!!