Anyone's dog have Pannus?

[Sudilar]

We think that Shiloh has Pannus. She is on meds now to see if it will help. I guess I won't be calling Shiloh my healthy one anymore....

Anyone have any tips or treatments to look into? I'll be researching it on the internet.

[tatsxxx11]

Oh, no Sue, no Shiloh too! I've never heard of it Please give us more info. when you can. HUGS to dear Shiloh and Killian.

[Sudilar]

Sandra, it is something that can be genetic in GSDs and some other breeds which usually shows up at 4-5 yrs. old (Shiloh is 5). She has extremely bloodshot eyes. She will need treatment for life, or she will go blind. She would need eye drops multiple times a day and maybe even injections into the cornea. (ouch!) If it can be kept at bay, she won't lose too much vision, but if not, something (?) will grow over her eye. (Don't know the technical terms yet). Now her third eyelid is also moving up her eye on her right eye only. Both eyes are bloodshot.
I've got to get more info. She has eyedrops for now, but I have to take her back in to the vet. Poor Shiloh.

[tatsxxx11]

Oh Sue. It sounds like a dreadful condition...I hope and pray that with treatment our beloved Shiloh will not suffer any vision loss I just can't even bare to think of that happening. Sue, I know I've said it before, but you are truly an earthly angel and Killian and Shiloh are so, so lucky to have such a devoted Mommy. You really are one of a kind. Please give sweet Shiloh and Killian a hug from me, ok? Everyone here will be keeping fingers and paws crossed for both of our dear furfriends' improved health. We love you guys! Hugs and slurpy licks....Sandra, Cody and Star

[wolf_Q]

I met a lady at a dog halloween party with two long-coated GSDs. I believe the one had Pannus. She bought Doggles for her (http://www.doggles.com) which seemed to help the condition. I hope everything is ok with Shiloh!

[Sudilar]

After discussing Shiloh's eye problems with some GSD bb members and internet research, I think Shiloh has Pannus in both eyes and also Plasmoma in her right eye also. The Plasmoma has something to do with the third eyelid. These diseases are thought to be related to the immune system. Oh no, not more of that disease.

On the humorous side (gotta laugh, so you don't cry), we have a pic of Shiloh in sunglasses from the past. How ironic, huh? Wolf_q, I hope the Doggles come in fashionable colors! Her Highness is very picky!

[lizbud]

I think her Highness Shiloh looks super chic in sunglasses.

Really Sue, I had never heard of this disease & all I could find
was this link http://www.vetinfo.com/dciks.html
which explains CIKS & also talks about goggles or sunglasses
similar to what Wolf_Q talked about. I hope this new problem
doesn't cause Shiloh any pain or discomfort. I think that
it is a lifelong problem, isn't it?

[tatsxxx11]

You're so right Sue. You've gotta laugh through the tears. I have to say, Shiloh does look tres chic in her Foster Grants Are going to get a definitive diagnosis on the plasmoma too, Sue? Is the treatment any different? You, Killi and Shi are never far from my thoughts and always in my prayers. Please give Shiloh and Killian a big hug for me, ok?

[Sudilar]

Thanks, everyone. Shiloh thinks she's kewl!

Liz, it is a lifelong problem and if the meds aren't taken for even as little as two weeks, it can go downhill very quickly. If she doesn't get this treated, she would go blind. There is no cure, but they say it is controllable in most cases with daily meds and maybe shots.

Sandra, I am taking her to our lady vet (Killian's) on Wednesday morning. If she feels that she can handle this eye problem, then I will see her. If not, I will ask for a referral and take Shiloh to a canine ophthalmologist. I hope there is one in my area! I am learning about Pannus, but I don't know anything about Plasmoma, except that it can go along with Pannus. It seems that it would be the same type of treatment. Both are immune related and can affect GSDs.

Well, now. I REALLY, REALLY should have been a vet!!!

[Cincy'sMom]

Oh Poor Shilioh!!! I hope the eye drops will help get the ocnidtion under control. You are an angel for both your pups...they are lucky to have found such a geat mommy to take care of all their problems

[Sudilar]

Shiloh update:

Shiloh saw her regular vet today and we now have an appointment on Feb. 17th with an Opthalmologist. Our regular vet said that Shiloh's corneas are clear, so if it is anything, we caught it very early. There was nothing under her third eyelid. There are changes in the third eyelid now whereas the brown is now losing pigment. Of course, we still have the red and brown vessels in the whites of her eyes. The Opthalmologist will know best what is happening. At least her cornea's are clear.

Are there any other types of ailments besides Pannus or Plasmoma that this might be? Anyone have any ideas?

Right now she is off all eye medications to see what happens. We don't want to mask any symptoms with meds just yet, til there is a diagnosis.

Wish us luck, please!!

[tatsxxx11]

Thankfully her corneas are clear, Sue; at least a bit of good news! I'm clueless as to this type of condition so unfortuantely I can't help you out in offering any other possible diagnoses We certainly will be hoping and praying with all our might that the ophthamologist has some encouraging news on the 17th. We love you sweet Shiloh!!! Fingers, paws, everything crossed for you sweetheart

I'm almost afraid to ask, Sue, but how is Smiley doing??? And your Dad; is he healing ok?

[anna_66]

I've never heard of this before, but I really hope that Shiloh will not have alot of problems.
Hugs for you and the furkids!

[Sudilar]

Shiloh says thank you everyone!

Sandra, Smiley is doing well. She got her second shot last week and if she gets one every 4 weeks, she should do fine. The bad part is that it cost $200 a month! My Dad is doing well, too. We went to watch Smiley at one of her obedience classes and she did very well. She must have had obedience training in the past or she is just very smart!

[lizbud]

Sue,

I was just wondering how Shiloh & Killian are doing. I hope
the eye drops have helped her & wanted to wish you the best
of luck with Shiloh's upcoming appt. with the eye doctor. It's
next week isn't it? Hugs to the furkids. Liz & Smokey.