Politics and religion.

[RICHARD]

One of the most amusing things, to me, are the people who rail about something that bothers them.

The best examples are the media prostitutes/politicians who get on a soapbox and SCREAM about their disgust/hatred on a subject.

My favorite?

The guy from the church who was against gay marriage and eventually was caught up in a meth/gay/massage scandal.

Seems like he enjoyed hiring guys for massage, doing some drugs and getting frisky with the hired hands?

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When people start with the 'blah blah' isn't what god wanted? They lose the arguement

LOL, I'll ask god what he thinks, if I ever run into him?

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I have worked with racists and people who were just plain ignorant.

They aren't separated by THAT much.

The comments about the riots/unrest as being a blemish on that kid's legacy totally screws up any credibility that their arguement may have held.

In essence, they are trying to condone the behavior that led up to his death and blame the cop for shooting him?

People without a true stance will continue to scream and cry when they do not get their way and throw anything at the wall to get it to stick.

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Last thought?

The people of ferguson think that the PD is racist and profile people?

Well, they should call someone else instead of cops when they need them, I am sure they will get 'justice' that way?

[Lady's Human]

I have worked with racists and people who were just plain ignorant.

I've always considered racists among the most ignorant group of twits in humanity. Worse, by and large it's WILLFUL ignorance, because somewhere along the line someone has attempted to teach them otherwise.

[RICHARD]

One thing that really irritates the crap out of me is the 'victim mentality' that has surfaced lately.

IF YOU END UP 'interacting' with a PO, chance are you are a victim of a crime or are acting/being stupid in your life?

No one wants to admit the problem lies within?

I have seen people act like idiots when the cops show up.... they call names, spit, swing, start to act like morons - then complain about getting rousted.

All the morons that you see on TV that talk about kids getting being 'profiled' should talk to the kids and tell them that their actions determine your interactions with the law.

It's simple formula, to simple for some idiots to comprehend?

[RICHARD]

I have been amused by the talking skillet heads on the telly who are talking about the need for police/police departments to reform and NOT use force when dealing with the public (criminals).

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I don't know if getting tickets, being brought home by the police and being taken to the police station for an umpaid ticket counts as having experience with law enforcement counts.......but the answer to the problem of getting hassled by the cops is pretty easy. Don't be stupid - that is what I learned?

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Howard Stern had a tape of his father yelling at him - HS was screwing about and his dad tells him, "I told you not to be stupid, you moron".

There ya go, "don't be stupid" and you WILL NOT be arrested, thrown in jail, beat, tased, gassed, shot,beaten or killed?

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The 'experts' on TV all spew the same BS about the police using too much force when they deal with the cops?

Why not concentrate of the stupidity that brings you in contact with the authoriies?

No one mentions HOW OR WHAT a person does to get the cops to show up.

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The problem is that society focuses on what happens after some idiot breaks the law.

One news outlet makes me laugh because they list all the recent deaths where the police/law officials are involved and never explain why the police showed up?

How's about reporting on the "victim's" actions beforehand?

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A stupid kid waving a fake pistol in a park gets killed by a PO.

What did the kid do to get the police to show up?

The media places NO RESPONSIBILITY on the idiot's actions BEFORE the incident. It's all the the Establishment's fault.

The establishment doesn't give the people jobs, schooling, integrated police forces and government - people talk about change - but wait for it to be handed to them.

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Lastly?

The chuckleheaded lawyer that represents the brown family is a buffoon.

I love that his quest - poorly named after the 'gentle giant' - is to get ALL police officers to wear body cameras.

Maybe THAT will show the BS that officers have to put up with on a daily basis and really bring to light the stupidity of the people that they interact with on a daily basis?

[Karen]

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A stupid kid waving a fake pistol in a park gets killed by a PO.

What did the kid do to get the police to show up?

The media places NO RESPONSIBILITY on the idiot's actions BEFORE the incident. It's all the the Establishment's fault.

The establishment doesn't give the people jobs, schooling, integrated police forces and government - people talk about change - but wait for it to be handed to them.

From what I have seen, it was nothing the kid did - playing with a toy pistol by himself in a park - but that a neighbor called 911 to report what she thought might have been someone with a gun. She did mention it may be a juvenile ... but the police drove up, saw the kid, and the toy gun and shot him before the kid had any chance to do or say anything.

Should a child have been given a toy gun with the orange plastic removed, and allowed to go outside with it? No. But he obviously was a bored kid, nothing to do ... he knew it was a toy, but ... the officers obviously did not.

Tragic all around, on any other day it might not have happened.

So many of the issues are not nearly as black and white, cut and dried, as the media make them out to be - but nuance takes more than a soundbite, and heaven forfend we spend more than 60 seconds to research or explain a given story, when hype plays!

[momoffuzzyfaces]

I was amazed by all the protesters marching around INSIDE stores in Ferguson on Thanksgiving!! Since when is it ok to protest INSIDE a business??? They should be darn grateful they had any businesses left open in town after they burned and destroyed lots of them recently!!!

[RICHARD]

From what I have seen, it was nothing the kid did - playing with a toy pistol by himself in a park - but that a neighbor called 911 to report what she thought might have been someone with a gun. She did mention it may be a juvenile ... but the police drove up, saw the kid, and the toy gun and shot him before the kid had any chance to do or say anything.

Should a child have been given a toy gun with the orange plastic removed, and allowed to go outside with it? No. But he obviously was a bored kid, nothing to do ... he knew it was a toy, but ... the officers obviously did not.

Tragic all around, on any other day it might not have happened.

So many of the issues are not nearly as black and white, cut and dried, as the media make them out to be - but nuance takes more than a soundbite, and heaven forfend we spend more than 60 seconds to research or explain a given story, when hype plays!

On the CCTV tape the kid was waving the gun around and pointing it at people.

There also was some breakdown in what the 911 clerk relayed to the officers.

No there are no cut and dried issues - a 60 second soundbite is a lifetime compared to the 3-4 seconds a PO has to make a decision?

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I have a .22 cal pellet gun that we'd use around the neighborhood to shoot at cans. The house across the street had an empty lot where people would toss trash into. We'd shoot at bottles and cans all the time when we were bored.... My friend was shooting at a can when a cop car drove by and the PO in the passenger seat looked right at us.

I knew they were coming back, so I took the gun and walked across the street with it. By the time I put it away at my house, the cops had come around the block and were rousting my friends....

The hassled the crap out of us -rightfully so - but that stupidity could have ended up in a more serious incident. It only takes one act of stupidity to get into trouble way over your head.

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My gripe with the media is that a story is often slanted by the people in charge of the news networks.

It's all sensation and when you do start to peel the layers away, you get the truth?

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My mom had the best line for me when I got into trouble and went to her for help. She'd listen, then ask me, "who sent you" - meaning who was the person that got you into trouble?

I saw the idiot everytime I washed my face in the bathroom!

[cassiesmom]

I've always considered racists among the most ignorant group of twits in humanity. Worse, by and large it's WILLFUL ignorance, because somewhere along the line someone has attempted to teach them otherwise.

Over the summer I saw a museum exhibit about the integration of the Little Rock schools. One of the pictures was of a group of black high school students walking into school, and a white girl in a group behind them, shouting. Then a few photos down was a picture of two women, one black and one white. Turned out it was the girl who had been shouting insults that day. Later in her life, she sought to reconcile with one of the black girls and now they give presentations to students together about their experiences, racism and prejudice.

[Lady's Human]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2031841

And this, gentlepeople, is why I hate idiocy like the Ferguson, MO. case.

This is a legit case of police brutality. Combined with the idiotic laws against selling loose cigs (why is it illegal? Because NYC doesn't get their cut) it is a microcosm of much that's wrong with society, but because of the race baiting idiocy in MO, this is getting far less play when it's a much more legitimate case.

[RICHARD]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2031841

And this, gentlepeople, is why I hate idiocy like the Ferguson, MO. case.

This is a legit case of police brutality. Combined with the idiotic laws against selling loose cigs (why is it illegal? Because NYC doesn't get their cut) it is a microcosm of much that's wrong with society, but because of the race baiting idiocy in MO, this is getting far less play when it's a much more legitimate case.

Someone posted a rather lenghty list of 'police shootings' in the last year.

I answered, 'How did those shining examples of citizenship come to be involved with the cops?"

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Yes, the NYC case is an example of 'police brutality', but isn't the basic idea NOT to get on a PO's radar?

I guess I am too naive to have an opinion about cases like these.

You cannot fight the 'power', so why get into the ring?

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Crime is like riding a bicycle.

You can get on and ride as far as you like, but you are going to fall down, eventually.

If you scrape your hands and knees, you can't blame anyone except the guy in the saddle.

YOU might take a stand against gravity as you get up, but who is really to blame when you fall?

[Karen]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2031841

And this, gentlepeople, is why I hate idiocy like the Ferguson, MO. case.

This is a legit case of police brutality. Combined with the idiotic laws against selling loose cigs (why is it illegal? Because NYC doesn't get their cut) it is a microcosm of much that's wrong with society, but because of the race baiting idiocy in MO, this is getting far less play when it's a much more legitimate case.

The only positive I have about the coverage of the Eric Garner case is I had no idea of the race of either the police officer or the victim. Tragic, and senseless, and police brutality at its worst. I think the police department should immediately set up a fund to help the victim's children, not with just a few toys and cards at Christmas, but an ongoing gesture of support and understanding and admission of culpability.

[RICHARD]

I stated to reply to the "sad/are you going to shoot me" thread and decided that my replies were best suited for the DH.....

There was the question of a child being taught to be afraid of someone who isn't 'like them'?

Sometimes it's not what a child is 'taught', they pick up sooooo much from their enviroment?

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Poor kid is probably listening to all the crap being slung about in her household and it sticks?

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The other day I was in the store and saw a child sitting on the edge of the cooler units in the meat department. In his hands was a large package of meat.

As I approached the cooler - I was about to tell the kid to be careful, with an extra helping of STINK EYE, when the mom walked up to him.

I was expecting her to tell him to put the package down and get the F off of the cooler.

What do you think she said to him?




"Oh, that's gross" and she walked away.


There are no more penalties being handed out by parents to kids acting like little AHs?

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Our store has motorized carts for the disabled folks who want to shop and more than once I have seen kids in the store - once with a parent- riding the carts up and down the aisles, just for laughs.

Should they block the aisle or run into you, you are 'greeted' with a dirty look and a challenge to say something - There are times you cannot say anything for fear of being called a bully, racist or whatever words these kids have in their vocabulary?

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There are way too many people that belly up to the table when a game of "race cards" starts.

No one wins and it's usually the dealer who starts to scream, biatch and moan when they start to lose their stakes in the game.

Calling 'racism' is merely a smokescreen to absolve an person who commits a crime and then gets called on it.

I have seen and known people that have have been 'tuned up' by the cops - because of THEIR attitude towards the cops.

There are only so many hands where you can play a 'race card' in, after that? You really aren't gonna be taken seriously?

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Here's a good example of the 'way things work'? You get a white cop that pulls over a mexican and the mexican starts in with the cops - you pulled me over because I am a mexican, you are racist! If it's a mexican cop that pulls over a mexican, the mexican looks to be let go. But when the mexican cop does his job and arrests the dude, the mex cop gets lip about being a sellout, coconut (brown on the outside and white on the inside) and verbally assaulted in espanol?

The POs are never going to win THAT battle.

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The only way that people are going to live together is when we stop playing victim and begin to accept the reason WHY PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY YOUNG MEN, are being killed by the police. It's a pretty simple solution to the problem.

It's honesty.

Before anyone starts to raise a question about 'racism', think about the reason why anyone would suddenly pop up on a PO's radar screen and go from there.

It really ticks me off when I hear about some stupid person that meets an unfortunate end while acting like a fool, then people jump up to protect the idiot by forgetting how he ended up tussling with a cop.

Again, the only times you should interact with a cop is when you are a victim of a crime or a criminal.

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One last thing about 'being profiled for Driving While (insert your race here)"?

Here's a little observation about some of cars that I have seen pulled over?

There is some kind of mechanical defect/look to a car.

They might have missing body parts, multicolored parts on the car.
Have just violated some traffic law.
Broken windows, plastic bag taped over a broken window
Screwed up lights/turn signals
tinted windows
Music being played for the whole neighborhood
or some other dumb reason.

You are not being pulled over for being ---------, the reason is that you are driving a POS car, don't follow the rules or are acting stupid....

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The next time you hear about someone, in an unfortunate encounter with a PO, pay attention as to WHY they ended up on the street, getting to know the local constables.

Usually it has to do with breaking the law and having the cops close at hand - and nothing to do with your skin color - after all, Idiots come in ALL shapes, sizes and COLORS?

[Lady's Human]

The problem in NYC is the police. They are extremely aggressive, especially in certain areas. This is where statistics get skewed. I saw a report on the news last night that that last year the NYCPD made over 700,000 "stop and frisk" searches last year, up from under 100K in the first year of Mayor (bloomberg)Cocteau's regime. They have stopped and frisked almost 10% of their population. They are aggressive, pushed by a police state mentality to be so, and then wonder why people have an attitude about them.