To everyone that so kindly sent me replies with regards to my two hooligans, thanks very much. Just to let you know, Amber (spaniel pup 6 months old) will be taking her first obedience class on Saturday morning. Max (Lab 18 months) will take a little more time, he comes from an abused background and at the moment I cannot get him into the car and it's impossible to get a leash on him. But thanks to all of your hints, I am working on it and will keep you all updated.

Simi