Politics and religion.

[blue]

You've GOT to be kidding!

WHY do I want to read a pagefull of disjointed thoughts you've copied down
and never bothered to read yourself?

Not in this life, Bub!

Meh, I cant blame you.

Ill finish reading it later.

Bub!

ETA: Is the New York Post, or Meghan Clyne a reputable news source?

[Randi]

Puckstop, Yes, almost all politicians are human beings who care about the society in which they live and chose to work, making that society better. They represent the people who elect them!


As Smokey the Elder said:

The best of us will see more similarities than differences in peoples of the world, regardless of politics, culture or religion.

[Miss Z]

Puckstop, Yes, almost all politicians are human beings who care about the society in which they live and chose to work, making that society better. They represent the people who elect them!

Reading that quote reminded me of a politician (I think he was a conservative MP) that I saw in a television interview some time ago. He said nearly the exact same thing.... some weeks later the country was outraged when we learnt that a good proportion of Parliament was squandering the tax-payer's money on mortgages, moats and floating duck houses (!) for their second homes.

I have been lucky enough to sit on on lectures with a few politicians, and don't get me wrong, I respect them, but each one, perhaps bar one, has made horrendous errors of judgement in their history that did nothing for the community or the greater good of anybody.

I think I might be agreeing with Puckstop on this one!

[RICHARD]

[Edwina's Secretary]

As someone pointed out to me when I was complaining about some politicians once...have you ever run for office?

So those who are carping...calling all or almost all politicians evil or morons or thieves...

Have you run for office? Have you worked on the campaign of someone you think would be better?

Or is it easier to curse the darkness than to light a candle?

I don't believe all are anything. Just as people who go into the military do it to make the world a safer place, I think most politicians run for office because they want to make the government better.

As we all know those Founding Fathers were also politicians!

Do some politicians go bad? Sure. Do some in the military go bad? Sure. Heck, so do some teachers, lawyers, doctors, business people, athletes, etc. etc, etc.

I just have never like labeling ALL of anything good or evil.

[lizbud]

You've GOT to be kidding!

WHY do I want to read a pagefull of disjointed thoughts you've copied down
and never bothered to read yourself?

Not in this life, Bub!

A real piece of work.

[RICHARD]

BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,

Normally I cannot stand music when I am put on hold, but I can dig a few marches and some patriotic tunes....


I guess the friggin hag decided she didn't want people to be inspired..

http://newledger.com/2009/08/why-doe...triotic-music/

But wait!

The masses speak!!!!!! And they get what they want... Good old Nutsy never learns. I can hardly wait for the people of Cuh lee fuh nee ah to wipe their shoes of this moron when election time comes.

Dear Political Jesus.

Keep NP safe until the election and her defeat. I any eagerly awaiting the day when someone tells her she is out of office. I want to see how many eye blinks it takes for her to realize she is a loser.

AMEN.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Gosh! I wonder how...
friggin hag
Good old Nutsy
this moron

differs from Erica Jong's "name calling"?

After all...I've never seen name calling win an argument or enhance a discussion yet. It only serves to fan the flames of an already heated debate!

[Puckstop31]

As someone pointed out to me when I was complaining about some politicians once...have you ever run for office?

So those who are carping...calling all or almost all politicians evil or morons or thieves...

Have you run for office?

No.

Have you worked on the campaign of someone you think would be better?

Yes. And it was the first of a series of experiences that taught me what our modern politician is all about.

I might begin believing in the people who serve in government again.... When that "service" becomes a sacrifice again. The founders understood that SERVICE was a sacrifice, and a noble one. Today, it seems a way to live a fat life and spend OPM. (Other Peoples Money, to coin the 'fine' State Senator from PA, Vince Fumo, who is currently incarcerated.)

As we all know those Founding Fathers were also politicians!

Indeed. But those men had something that very, very few today do. A sense of honor and integrity. They understood that they served something MUCH bigger than themselves. That they were part of a necessary evil, not the solution to all our woes.

They pledged their LIVES, their FORTUNES and their SACRED HONOR. What does our modern version risk?

[Medusa]

When I was still a child, I learned that when I point a finger at someone else, there are 4 more fingers pointing back at me.

[pomtzu]

When I was still a child, I learned that when I point a finger at someone else, there are 4 more fingers pointing back at me.

To borrow someone else's quote I saw here today:

"Medusa is a wise woman".

[Medusa]

To borrow someone else's quote I saw here today:

"Medusa is a wise woman".

Uh oh. I'm at the age now when I'm called wise? This is not good.

[smokey the elder]

Lifetime political "service" may be part of the problem. The lifers realize how cushy of a job they have. They don't need to work for a living, so there is no incentive. IMO, there should be term limits all the way from dog catcher to POTUS. NYC imposed term limits, now Bloomberg wants to beat the system. Say what you want to about Giuliani; folks wanted him to run for a third term after 9/11 but he said it wasn't allowed by law and declined.

I didn't intend any slight to small acts of kindness by mentioning philanthropy; large scale philanthropy just has much more global reach. However, the man that got the Peace Prize for creating the concept of micro-loans also started small. (These have a repayment rate the envy of any big bank: well north of 90%.) There is another person who is arranging with Kenya, that if a village/town will plant 100 trees they will get a new laptop for their school. These types of activities are definitely quid pro quo; as they should be. No one should get something for nothing.

I think more emphasis is being put on "locals" who do good deeds, and that can be an incentive to others. This is also mandated in many faiths.

[Grace]

When I was still a child, I learned that when I point a finger at someone else, there are 4 more fingers pointing back at me.

Totally non sequiter, but the minute I read this post I figured you had watched Laura Ingraham on O'Reilly last night. She began the show by extending her arm and pointing one of her fingers straight into the camera. Very unflattering picture.

[Edwina's Secretary]

When I was a child I learned that what people most complain about others doing is something they do themselves!