New Baby!!!!

[dogzr#1]

I agree with Alicia, 100%!

Getting a dog from a BYB/puppymill or the like isn't really saving it's life. In turn, you give them business so they 'pump' out more puppies to get more sales thus more money. If you didn't buy from them, their mothers would probably be put out of her misery or go to a shelter where she will get bathed, UTD on shots, spayed etc. The same thing will most likely happen to the puppies.

As others have said, the 'breeder' you are getting your pug from isn't that great. Sure she's just breeding pugs for pets, but even pets need testing done. Who knows, he may develop some sort of health problems later on, regardless if you take good care of him or not. I'm sure you will take excellent care of him though!

Also, not all dogs at shelters are dying, old or unhealthy. You can find many happy, healthy dogs there! Pugs included! There are many pugs available for adoption on Petfinder. You just have to look!

Well, congrats on your new addition!

ps- I am not trying to bash/attack you. I'm just trying to convince you to adopt a dog instead of buying one from a BYB.

[mr.chiwawa]

WHY DOES ANYONE CARE WHERE SHE IS GETTING HER PUPPY FROM? ARE ANY OF YOU PUTTING UP THE MONEY FOR IT????????? NO!!!! SO BACK OFF OF HER AND JUST BE HAPPY FOR HER!!!!! IS THAT SOO HARD?

[dogzr#1]

Sheesh, calm down. We are just telling her that next time she should get one from a rescue or a reputable breeder instead of a BYB. We aren't attacking her in any way.

[mr.chiwawa]

YOU MISSED MY POINT...WHY DO YOU CARE WHERE SHE GETS A DOG..UNLESS YOU HAVE OT LIVE WITH HER OR PAY THE VET BILLS WHY DOES ANYONE CARE?

[dogzr#1]

Because it has a bad domino effect for many other dogs/breeders. It basically fuels the fire in the world of BYBs.

[junescrater716]

Well you know what it's too late. We already paid for him. Mr.C you ROCK!!!

[#1Wolflover]

I know BYB's aren't the same as puppymills. But the pet store puppies come from puppymills (MOST of them).

I know she isn't getting her pup from any of those places but I wanted to cear up why it is bad to get a puppy from a pet store, byb or puppymill.

That's good that you rescued all those dogs.

I refuse to buy pups from puppymills, cute as they maybe they benefit the puppymills, and I couldn't think staright knowing I helped a puppymill.

[TFTpwnsYou]

I just went through all of the posts. Junes, just ignore the people with nothing nice to say. I know your situation, and I'm happy for you and the puppy. And don't worry I'm a mean person like you since I didn't adpot either of mine. The puppy is in good hands, and I'm glad you found the one that fits perfect with you. 5 days if I read right?

[Tollers-n-Dobes]

You guys, why bother repeating the same things over and over again? Seriously. You all know that she nor her family is going to change their minds. Yes, BYBs are bad and we all know that. I'm sure she understands the point you're all trying to get across. They are going to get the puppy regardless. There's nothing we can do about it. Just be glad the pup will be in a good home and won't end up in the shelter - as a lot do.

As far as all this "why don't you adopt?" stuff goes, why can't you all just drop that subject as well? It makes it seem as though everyone getting their dog even from either a BYB or a reputable breeder are awful, horrible people. She's obviously not getting her dog from a reputable breeder, but I'm just sick of hearing "adopt, adopt, adopt!" all the time. It's not for everyone, myself included. She's already stated reasons as to why she doesn't want to/can't adopt. Why is it that some of you have to go on and on and on about all the wrong things she's doing and you can't just be happy for her? I kind of know how she feels as I've gone through the same thing on other boards about my choice to go to a (wonderful, excellent) breeder instead of adopting my next dog and it certainly is not enjoyable to listen to.

I'm not trying to stand up for her or say it's right to get a pup from a BYB, but I think the entire thread has gotten way out of hand and everyone is just repeating themselves. You're all (well, most of you) making her sound like an awful person about this chocie to purchase the pup (I know you weren't trying to, you were all just educating, but that's the way it's coming across - or atleast thats how I see it anyway). You also have to remember that she herself is not buying the dog...her parents/Dad is.

[#1Wolflover]

Sheesh, calm down. We are just telling her that next time she should get one from a rescue or a reputable breeder instead of a BYB. We aren't attacking her in any way.

well as long as you check the breeders and there not puppymills, whats the big deal? Maybe the local sheltor didn't have a pug!
But I understand what you mean, all my 5 dogs are rescued from sheltors, one supposedly ran away from a puppymill!

[#1Wolflover]

Well you know what it's too late. We already paid for him. Mr.C you ROCK!!!

you go junescrator, theres nothing wrong with getting a dog from a breeder, as long as you check the breeders out first!

[junescrater716]

We have checked her out and shes fine. I've talked to a few of her adopters and they've all been very happy with the service. BTW pugs out in oregon are hard to find. We looked for black ones but all the black pugs were over a year old, sick, had diabetes or some other illness, or were way to expensive. So we checked this breeder out and it was a perfect situation.

My friend who lives a few doors down from me even said that the pugs are gorgeous and look happy and healthy and she has two girl pugs of her own plus a boston terrier.

[borzoimom]

I just went through all of the posts. Junes, just ignore the people with nothing nice to say. I know your situation, and I'm happy for you and the puppy. And don't worry I'm a mean person like you since I didn't adpot either of mine. The puppy is in good hands, and I'm glad you found the one that fits perfect with you. 5 days if I read right?

OH WELL JEEZ- TFTPWNSYOU- If you are a "mean person" then I flat out must be HORRID!!! (ROFLMAO).. Three of my current dogs are from dog breeders, and so is the coming collie. Technically- so is the 4th Borzoi- out of the top international kennel in the World for Borzois-, out of the Borzoi Rescue- and she has the health problems Miss Top Breeder in the world-... Saying BYB's are bad is one thing- saying this breeder qualifies for this is another...

[caseysmom]

OH WELL JEEZ- TFTPWNSYOU- If you are a "mean person" then I flat out must be HORRID!!! (ROFLMAO).. Three of my current dogs are from dog breeders, and so is the coming collie. Technically- so is the 4th Borzoi- out of the top international kennel in the World for Borzois-, out of the Borzoi Rescue- and she has the health problems Miss Top Breeder in the world-... And I will say this- its a good thing the breeder of this puppy isnt reading this thread- some of you would be heading for one heck of a slander lawsuit.. I know if it was me as the breeder you were atttacking- I would.. ( hmm I wonder what I would do with all those houses....lol)
Saying BYB's are bad is one thing- saying this breeder qualifies for this is another...

Gosh you threaten lawsuites and things a lot...you honestly think you could win lots of houses from this? Nobody was attacking, why do you always think critisism is attacking? Thank god things can be analyzed without always being contrued by all as attacks.

[borzoimom]

It was a joke- and I will edit. Just making a point. .. You never know who is reading.