Something Could Be Terribly Wrong

**wolfie** · 10-13-2005, 10:37 AM

I just read this whole thread, and I have to say many of you are being very mean to Briana. This doesn't have to be turned into a huge arguement. There are dogs in this world living on the streets, living in puppy mills, owned by dogfighters, and in research labs. I think Roxy is much better off than those poor animals. It's very hurtful to tell someone straight out to get rid of their dog. Briana is just a kid.

I can tell you love your dogs Briana. I have a friendly suggestion. Instead of just begging your mom, and offering to train and exercise Roxy, really do it. I know you don't have a lot of time now, but even just a 15 minute walk a day, or a little training in the back yard will pay off. Roxy will be a happy girl. If you need any training help feel free to ask, or just PM me. And after Roxy knows the basics you can train her lots of fun tricks! Who knows, maybe even your mom might let Roxy inside in the future.

**lv4dogs** · 10-13-2005, 10:40 AM

I am terribly sorry Glacier, I should of stated it a little differently. And added that yes you do take awesome care of your dogs, but I thought that everyone here knows that already.

And I am sorry, I thought that you had a few dogs that were not allowed inside at all. I knew that most were allowed in but not all. I should of checked with you & had the exact information.
I was just trying to get them to shut up & understand that yes it is ok to have outside dogs as long as you take proper care of them. Granted you take better care of your dogs than Roxylovesme does, but she is younger & still learning too. I never said anything about vet care or the cost of food or anything like that nor did I say anything about you having inadeqate shelter for them.

I really did try to think of other examples to use, but I didn't know anyone else on pt that takes better care of their outdoor (or mostly outdoor) dogs than you do!!!

**Roxyluvsme13** · 10-13-2005, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by wolfie

I just read this whole thread, and I have to say many of you are being very mean to Briana. This doesn't have to be turned into a huge arguement. There are dogs in this world living on the streets, living in puppy mills, owned by dogfighters, and in research labs. I think Roxy is much better off than those poor animals. It's very hurtful to tell someone straight out to get rid of their dog. Briana is just a kid.

I can tell you love your dogs Briana. I have a friendly suggestion. Instead of just begging your mom, and offering to train and exercise Roxy, really do it. I know you don't have a lot of time now, but even just a 15 minute walk a day, or a little training in the back yard will pay off. Roxy will be a happy girl. If you need any training help feel free to ask, or just PM me. And after Roxy knows the basics you can train her lots of fun tricks! Who knows, maybe even your mom might let Roxy inside in the future.

Aww Thanks

Roxy already knows sit, and down, I have to start teaching her stay...Thanks Again

Briana<3

**Cataholic** · 10-14-2005, 11:38 AM

The difference between Glacier's care of her pets and Briana's goes WAY past age differences. It is apparent in the explanation, even considering the difference in age, that Glacier respects her dogs and Briana does not. This is different than "loving" the dogs, and "wanting" different things for them. Briana spends an enormous amount of time defending her position, and then gives the ultimate cop out, "it is my mom"....I don't buy it. Not for one minute. On the chat, her reasons changed, VERY similar to someone when they have been caught revealing their true feelings, then realizing those feelings weren't readily accepted by their peers.

Sure, it is alright to say, 'you shouldn't be so harsh with her...", or "she is just a kid, and can't control things in her house...". I remind all of you adults what you were like as teenagers. If you wanted it, you probably could whine your way into getting it, or worked your parents into bending the rules. Come on. If Briana could talk her mother into getting another dog, surely she could exercise the same persuasiveness with Roxy being treated humanely.

I don't believe the mistreatment of animals is any more acceptable because someone is under 18 than I do if they are over 18.

Poor Roxy.

**cloverfdx** · 10-14-2005, 12:42 PM

Very sad situaution for poor Roxy

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Honestly, I think Roxy may be better off in another home.

I too agree with you on this.

Goodluck Roxy and Tink, you will both be in my thoughts.

**Flatcoatluver** · 10-14-2005, 12:49 PM

Why don't you guys just let this go????? She is trying her best!!! I AM TALKING TO HER ON MSN AND SHE IS CONSTANTLY TRYING TO MAKE ROXY HAPPY AND HELPING HER!!!!!!!!! You guys just need to Stop So you may not belive how roxy lives, so how come you guys are mad about this, you can make suggestion nicely. I would be hurt if someone said get rid of you dog, you don't care about her. Before tink came all i herad about is how much roxy meant to her. This is rediculus!!!!!

**jackie** · 10-14-2005, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Flatcoatluver

Before tink came all i herad about is how much roxy meant to her. This is rediculus!!!!!

And now she has Tink, it seems poor Roxy is never mentioned.

I have not been posting in this thread so far, but I have been watching it closely. If you spent HALF the time with Roxy as you do on this website, I am sure she could be housetrained in no time.

It's Roxylovesme13's dog, and one one has a say except her and her mother. But when she posts on a public website, she should expect responses, even if she doesn't like what she hears.

**CagneyDog** · 10-14-2005, 01:02 PM

You can say that she loves Roxy all you want but I can never imagin leaving my dog outside. Its common sense. so many things could happen, and I believe that if you love something you do everything to make sure its not harmed and thats not what she is doing at all.

**CagneyDog** · 10-14-2005, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by jackie

And now she has Tink, it seems poor Roxy is never mentioned.

Yes, exactly what I was thinking

**cloverfdx** · 10-14-2005, 01:03 PM

I have not been posting in this thread so far, but I have been watching it closely. If you spent HALF the time with Roxy as you do on this website, I am sure she could be housetrained in no time.

Exactly, less time messing around on an online forum and more time with Roxy showing your Mum that you can look after her.

**Flatcoatluver** · 10-14-2005, 01:03 PM

gosh!!!!!!!!! why do you have to do that?? I still hear alot about roxy just not right now because tink is sick. you guys are wrong and mean. I don't know roxy but i know where she is coming from, let me tell all of you guys something, you might think i am young and i know nothing about dogs, but i train dogs and get paid for that, i know alot more then alot of people think. I am tired of people saying all this crap about roxy!!!! you don't know roxy.

**cloverfdx** · 10-14-2005, 01:07 PM

But you dont know her either

. We are just going on what she is telling us.

**shais_mom** · 10-14-2005, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Flatcoatluver

Before tink came all i herad about is how much roxy meant to her. This is rediculus!!!!!

I think you just said it yourself without realizing it.
And I think one of the reasons why you keep jumping to her defense is b/c you aren't that much older then she is..

This is PET TALK - if you don't like us discussing the welfare of someone's pet(s) (and trust me this isn't the first and won't be the last - there are a few other people here that I question their sincerity to their pets - heck if they even HAVE pets, also) then stop reading.

**Roxyluvsme13** · 10-14-2005, 01:16 PM

Ok.. I have many things I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, but I'm not going to. All I have to say is Roxy and Tink are both happy, healthy, and treated humanely. You may not think so, but Do I care? No...Anyways, Dont You Dare Say I dont love them and Want the best for them. They are in the best conditions for each of them, and they like where they are. Roxy WOULD NOT be happy inside! I TELL YOU THIS 3000 TIMES! She is more happy outside, so that IS THE BEST FOR HER! To prove we love them...If I didnt love them...Would I have Cried all day yesterday and worried to death, and stayed up till 2am with Tink? NO! If I didnt Love Roxy, Would we have taken her to the vet and got her rabies shot early when cases of rabies started appearing? NO! I DO LOVE THEM! On the thing with me saying I could convince my mom...YES I convinced her to get Tink...So? Roxy is happy outside, and she doesnt want to be inside. I could probably train Roxy to be an inside dog, but if I did that she would not be half as happy as she is now.

**jackie** · 10-14-2005, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Flatcoatluver

gosh!!!!!!!!! why do you have to do that?? I still hear alot about roxy just not right now because tink is sick. you guys are wrong and mean. I don't know roxy but i know where she is coming from, let me tell all of you guys something, you might think i am young and i know nothing about dogs, but i train dogs and get paid for that, i know alot more then alot of people think. I am tired of people saying all this crap about roxy!!!! you don't know roxy.

As I said before, when you post things on an internet forum, you can't expect everyone to be all nice and cheery and agree with everything you say. Why are you getting in such a twist?

This isn't about you, so calm down.