Am I the only one who feels this way...or has PT really changed recently?

[Kfamr]

Although it's a good idea, i'm not sure about combining as threads already do get burried quickly - and with two very active sections being combined, everything's bound to be burried.

I think we all just need to open up to other people, and become more as ONE forum rather than 3 seperate ones.

I mean, I understand not everyone has the time, but it doesn't take much longer to look at the different sections of PT.

[DogLover9501]

Im glad someone knows how I feel!

Also my post has nothing to do with dog side vs. cat side, I phrased it that way, not because of the dog or cat side, but because of the people, some people(who are dog people/mostly post on the dog side) are very opinionated, or they flame people, and on the cat side things seem to get "worked out" really quickly, or avoided.

It's not BECAUSE they are "cat people" from the "cat side", it just seems that alot of the "cat people" listen to both sides or stories without trying to act like they know everything and also just give 100% opinions and no bashing, as on the dog side things turn into wars(the Arthur thing, the greyhound racing thing..etc).

Anyway my point is, it had nothing to do with cat side vs. dog side, I phrased it that way because there is a big difference, and if there wasn't, they wouldn't seem so different.

[Amber]

Originally posted by Kfamr
threads already do get burried quickly - and with two very active sections being combined, everything's bound to be burried.

i forgot about that part. Your right, we just need to be more open to other threads.

[DogLover9501]

Sorry to post right away again, but I wanted to reply to something.

Alot of birthdays, family members, pillar..etc posts ARE posted in CG, mostly because alot of "cat people" stay on the cat side and don't visit the other places, so the people who post them do not want their friends to miss them.

So that's where I agree that everyone should take a little bit of time to visit each area.

[Kfamr]

Originally posted by DogLover9501
Im glad someone knows how I feel!

Also my post has nothing to do with dog side vs. cat side, I phrased it that way, not because of the dog or cat side, but because of the people, some people(who are dog people/mostly post on the dog side) are very opinionated, or they flame people, and on the cat side things seem to get "worked out" really quickly, or avoided.

It's not BECAUSE they are "cat people" from the "cat side", it just seems that alot of the "cat people" listen to both sides or stories without trying to act like they know everything and also just give 100% opinions and no bashing, as on the dog side things turn into wars(the Arthur thing, the greyhound racing thing..etc).

Anyway my point is, it had nothing to do with cat side vs. dog side, I phrased it that way because there is a big difference, and if there wasn't, they wouldn't seem so different.

Oh, I know Robyn!

It's just that my post leaded into that after I began typing.

And that's the part that I disagree with -- the dog side flaming people and the cat side getting worked out.
I think the "cat side/cat people" are just as bad (for lack of better term) as the "dog side/dog people".

I know that my dog was wrongly judged when I thought of getting a cat, and I was flamed for wanting to get a cat/it's living situation. Which BTW, I highly appreciate those who stood by me and SAW both sides, but a majority did not, and a most of those who did see both sides were those that were more frequent to the other sections of PT.

Something you've got to understand about the greyhound racing stuff as well, someone recruited a whole other forum for that, and that's where most of the controversy came from.


I just really think people need to be more open to other sections, as I've tried, but cannot do if no one bothers to reply.

[DogLover9501]

I guess I was thinking that way because I have *never* seen/heard of a "cat side" argument/war, except for the one that also involved "dog people" who were offended by a post, and I know alot of people are different than I am, but when I am offended I just avoid the situation.

I, too, wish everyone would just take some time and visit each part of PT, They can still have their favorite/most visited area, but is shouldn't be the only area they visit.

I know that alot of "cat people" don't feel comfortable on the "dog side", they feel as if they can't "fit in", and the same thing the other way around.

I feel pretty "fit in" on both sides, except for lately.

[aly]

There are just as many controversial things that happen on the cat side as there are on the dog side. I've seen many a declawing thread and indoor vs. outdoor thread turn plain nasty. I don't know WHY so many people keep talking down about the dog side lately but it is really bringing my spirits down. The greyhound issue ended very nicely, and for being such a heated thread, that says a lot about the dog people.

I'm sad about the whole dog side vs cat side debate and I feel extremely uncomfortable when I read posts about it. If you feel more comfortable on one side, then simply post there and don't visit the other. Publicly talking about how awful the other side is really brings down morale. Not addressing anyone in this thread, but I've recently seen some horrid things written about the dog side.

[wolf_Q]

I don't really have anything to say that hasn't already been said. So I'll just add that I agree with the original post and many of the other posts.

It just isn't the same. I've been trying to enjoy it tonight, on a bit of a weird posting spree....I hope it works.

[cloverfdx]

Now when I visit PT, I usually go right to the cat side, as there, if you posted 20 pictures everyday, you'd get just as many replies, and also they even reply to stories that you share, as the dog side don't usually.

Unfortunatly i have to disagree with you there Robyn, last time i posted something about my dear Yumi cat (Who i am crazy about and LOVE dearly) i got about a 3 whole replys , and it was something quite important to my myself and to Yumi.

I have plenty of photos and videos of her that i am going to post in the next couple of days or when i have the time . And Robyn i LOVE seeing photos and hearing/ reading about your pups *Couch* Jasper especially *Cough*.

[EssTer]

When I came first here PT was bit different.... I´ve noticed that quite many great members arent here anymore.. and it´s just sad

[lbaker]

I have and love cats and dogs, and now a snake.. and absolutely ADORE some special bunnies and birds I've "met" here. I don't take sides. I also visit General and the DogHouse and every other thread I have time for. I usually go to "Today's Topics" to see what's going on. I just go on from there. I happen to love a monkey named Mario and also a frog named Sipowitz. Years ago there was a buffalo as "PetoftheDay" that made me smile for weeks. That duck that would sneak up onto "Grandma's" kitchen counter too! Sides? Who has time or energy or even a desire to TAKE SIDES when it comes to our beloved pets? That's why Karen and Paul named this PET OF THE DAY. There are plenty of special WEB sites that specialize in a particular breed or species. This site encompasses them all, AND THAT'S THE POINT

[DogLover9501]

I already said this, but this isn't a cat side vs. dog side thing, it's simply the way I phrased it.

Also the greyhound thing didn't end *that* good, I couldn't even post a picture of my new greyhound cousin without things starting.

Originally posted by cloverfdx
Unfortunatly i have to disagree with you there Robyn, last time i posted something about my dear Yumi cat (Who i am crazy about and LOVE dearly) i got about a 3 whole replys , and it was something quite important to my myself and to Yumi.

I have plenty of photos and videos of her that i am going to post in the next couple of days or when i have the time . And Robyn i LOVE seeing photos and hearing/ reading about your pups *Couch* Jasper especially *Cough*.

Thanks Rhiannon

Also, sometimes you just need to bump your thread up in CG, and also your time zone is alot different than a few people's(like mine), and so I didn't even see the pictures of Yumi But I will be looking out for them through out the next couple days

[Randi]

PCB, I too feel that PT has changed in the three years I've been here - and of course it has! New members join and some leave. But I also know that some people have lost interest in PT for the reasons mentioned in this thread - and what a shame! I won't say I've lost interest, however, as PT grows, it is timeconsuming to keep up with all the threads I'd like to, so I have chosen to use my time mostly on the CAT and General sections. I have not been posting much lately for two reasons, I haven't felt very inspired and when I'm tired I don't express myself too well. I also got a job which took most of my time.
Growing as big as PT has, it's enevitable that some members are forming cliques, and that's OK, as long as we also keep our eyes open for other posters and newcomers.

It's sad to see the "oldtimers" leave. I miss some of them - just to name a few .... Sirocco, C.C.'s mom, Bisi.Cat, Gio, Yorkster, AntiPam, Wayne0214, and now also Pam - but I do enjoy a lot of the newer members posts.

It seems that many are very cautious about posting, and that's a pity, but at the same time, I also think the below quotes are valid.

When you post a thread, it should be of interest to other people, that's why it's a forum - for discussions! If there is nothing to say, do not say it. Sometimes I go back to check threads I've missed and I see many interesting threads go to the 3rd or 4th page because some people start threads just to keep themselves busy and the first page is just full of them.

We have people posting "I’m bored" threads. We have people who respond to a post with a smilie or some silly comment, just cause it will make them a pillar quicker. We have people creating threads with the same subjects over and over.

This, I'm sure, is one of the reasons that many just ignore these posters - and will keep doing it, even if they should post something interesting later on. Some are posting like there's no tomorrow. I definately prefer quality over quantity, and I think most do.

Concerning "trolls", I haven't noticed many, but in any case, if you don't "feed them", they won't think it's so funny, and they'll probably leave.

[Kfamr]

Originally posted by DogLover9501
Also the greyhound thing didn't end *that* good, I couldn't even post a picture of my new greyhound cousin without things starting.

Like I said, you've got to understand that a lot of the Greyhound stuff was because of the people from another forum. I do believe it would have ended very nicely, quicker -- but, a whole other forum jumped in on it. I do believe now, it's ended fairly well, but it was carried on and on by those who were just merely visiting PT for the first time.

[DogLover9501]

Originally posted by Randi
Some are posting like there's no tomorrow. I definately prefer quality over quantity, and I think most do.

I agree-Quality over Quantity! There are/were a few members who acted like PT was a GAME, and that their post count were like POINTS and they'd reply to threads JUST to move their post count up, and that definatly would make people avoid this poster, thinking that all their posts are just posted to bring up their post count.

Originally posted by Kfamr
Like I said, you've got to understand that a lot of the Greyhound stuff was because of the people from another forum. I do believe it would have ended very nicely, quicker -- but, a whole other forum jumped in on it. I do believe now, it's ended fairly well, but it was carried on and on by those who were just merely visiting PT for the first time.

That's true, everything was alot worse when someone dragged a whole other forum into our discussion, so yeah that's true-the PT side of that discussion ended well, it was just the other forum that kept it going, sorry.