Am I the only one who feels this way...or has PT really changed recently?

[GoldenRetrLuver]

Originally posted by DogLover9501
On the dog side, if you bring up something like tail docking, ear cropping..etc, it will turn into something REALLY bad, with alot of "" faces and other things like that, as on the cat side, if something like de-clawing is brought up, it's discussed without any of those things, and I like that.

I agree, but I also disagree. The dog side CAN get pretty heated when some of those "hot topics" are brought up, but I've seen the "cat side" get into many arguments/debates as well (such as declawing, and leaving cats outdoors), and some of them have ended badly. There's always going to be hot subjects on either side.. dog or cat. I'm starting to get really sick with all of this cat side versus dog side drama.

Anyway, I meant no offense to you with this post, Robyn. I'd love to see more pictures of your pups when you get the chance. I never get tired of them.

Personally, I think the board has sped up a little bit, and will probably (or should I say *hopefully*?) speed up more when the holidays pass.

[Amber]

Oh how I agree Robyn!

Their are times when I want to tell funny stories of Elvis, but I always second think and always decide not to post, because I dont want to seem like a "loser" or something and not get any replies. It hurts, really. Even though your thread is veiwed alot, its the replies that count too.

Same goes as pictures. Their is a HUGE difference when I post pictures of my dogs. When I'm begged to death for Katie pictures I end up with 5-6 or so replies. But when I post pictures of Elvis I get a ton more replies.



Now, I know this thread isn't directed to this topic, but I just wanted to say it out.

[Kfamr]

Robyn, sorry, but I have to disagree with your post.


I guess it's different for everyone, but it seems as if the cat side has always been like this to me, and a few of the cat-frequenters have always been bitter towards non cat-frequenters.

I had a lot more typed out about my negative experiences with the cat-side, but I deleted it once I typed it out, just to get it off my mind.

Maybe this shouldn't still shouldn't be said, but I felt I needed to say something.

I guess we probably shouldn't have this Cat Gen. VS Others Discussion, as I'd like for it to change, but it'll never change unless everyone is willing to help the change.

I'd like to see all "Congrats", Birthday, Nephew/Niece/Family, ect posts made in general, instead of just in Cat General, or just in Dog General. Going in Cat General, and seeing those threads in there make it feel like it wasn't meant for the whole board to see, or it wasn't meant for us to congratulate someone.
It's also rather un-inviting if it's just cross-posted. Why can't it just be in general? Why can't the Cat/Dog people just come in general to see that stuff?

I think if everyone were able to spread out more it'd make Pet Talk a more family-like place. I understand they want their close friends to see it, but why can't everyone become friends, and then post where everyone else posts Congrats/Birthday threads - for everybody to see. I mean, afterall, no matter which type of pet we own, or owns us -- we're still all here for the same exact reason. We love our animals dearly.

I guess i'm just blabbing and no one even cares, but i'd just like to see this place become more friendly instead of everyone being bitter towards eachother.

[Amber]

Kay, i agree.

Maybe we just need to COMBINE, yes combine pet talk where cat and dog topics go in the same Pet general type of thing. That way, PT will become more closer, it will save people time who say. "I dont have time to go to every section of PT" plus both cat & dog people can comment on everyones pictures, and stories. Maybe that will keep things livley and everyone together?

[Kfamr]

Although it's a good idea, i'm not sure about combining as threads already do get burried quickly - and with two very active sections being combined, everything's bound to be burried.

I think we all just need to open up to other people, and become more as ONE forum rather than 3 seperate ones.

I mean, I understand not everyone has the time, but it doesn't take much longer to look at the different sections of PT.

[DogLover9501]

Im glad someone knows how I feel!

Also my post has nothing to do with dog side vs. cat side, I phrased it that way, not because of the dog or cat side, but because of the people, some people(who are dog people/mostly post on the dog side) are very opinionated, or they flame people, and on the cat side things seem to get "worked out" really quickly, or avoided.

It's not BECAUSE they are "cat people" from the "cat side", it just seems that alot of the "cat people" listen to both sides or stories without trying to act like they know everything and also just give 100% opinions and no bashing, as on the dog side things turn into wars(the Arthur thing, the greyhound racing thing..etc).

Anyway my point is, it had nothing to do with cat side vs. dog side, I phrased it that way because there is a big difference, and if there wasn't, they wouldn't seem so different.

[Amber]

Originally posted by Kfamr
threads already do get burried quickly - and with two very active sections being combined, everything's bound to be burried.

i forgot about that part. Your right, we just need to be more open to other threads.

[DogLover9501]

Sorry to post right away again, but I wanted to reply to something.

Alot of birthdays, family members, pillar..etc posts ARE posted in CG, mostly because alot of "cat people" stay on the cat side and don't visit the other places, so the people who post them do not want their friends to miss them.

So that's where I agree that everyone should take a little bit of time to visit each area.

[Kfamr]

Originally posted by DogLover9501
Im glad someone knows how I feel!

Also my post has nothing to do with dog side vs. cat side, I phrased it that way, not because of the dog or cat side, but because of the people, some people(who are dog people/mostly post on the dog side) are very opinionated, or they flame people, and on the cat side things seem to get "worked out" really quickly, or avoided.

It's not BECAUSE they are "cat people" from the "cat side", it just seems that alot of the "cat people" listen to both sides or stories without trying to act like they know everything and also just give 100% opinions and no bashing, as on the dog side things turn into wars(the Arthur thing, the greyhound racing thing..etc).

Anyway my point is, it had nothing to do with cat side vs. dog side, I phrased it that way because there is a big difference, and if there wasn't, they wouldn't seem so different.

Oh, I know Robyn!

It's just that my post leaded into that after I began typing.

And that's the part that I disagree with -- the dog side flaming people and the cat side getting worked out.
I think the "cat side/cat people" are just as bad (for lack of better term) as the "dog side/dog people".

I know that my dog was wrongly judged when I thought of getting a cat, and I was flamed for wanting to get a cat/it's living situation. Which BTW, I highly appreciate those who stood by me and SAW both sides, but a majority did not, and a most of those who did see both sides were those that were more frequent to the other sections of PT.

Something you've got to understand about the greyhound racing stuff as well, someone recruited a whole other forum for that, and that's where most of the controversy came from.


I just really think people need to be more open to other sections, as I've tried, but cannot do if no one bothers to reply.

[DogLover9501]

I guess I was thinking that way because I have *never* seen/heard of a "cat side" argument/war, except for the one that also involved "dog people" who were offended by a post, and I know alot of people are different than I am, but when I am offended I just avoid the situation.

I, too, wish everyone would just take some time and visit each part of PT, They can still have their favorite/most visited area, but is shouldn't be the only area they visit.

I know that alot of "cat people" don't feel comfortable on the "dog side", they feel as if they can't "fit in", and the same thing the other way around.

I feel pretty "fit in" on both sides, except for lately.

[aly]

There are just as many controversial things that happen on the cat side as there are on the dog side. I've seen many a declawing thread and indoor vs. outdoor thread turn plain nasty. I don't know WHY so many people keep talking down about the dog side lately but it is really bringing my spirits down. The greyhound issue ended very nicely, and for being such a heated thread, that says a lot about the dog people.

I'm sad about the whole dog side vs cat side debate and I feel extremely uncomfortable when I read posts about it. If you feel more comfortable on one side, then simply post there and don't visit the other. Publicly talking about how awful the other side is really brings down morale. Not addressing anyone in this thread, but I've recently seen some horrid things written about the dog side.

[wolf_Q]

I don't really have anything to say that hasn't already been said. So I'll just add that I agree with the original post and many of the other posts.

It just isn't the same. I've been trying to enjoy it tonight, on a bit of a weird posting spree....I hope it works.

[cloverfdx]

Now when I visit PT, I usually go right to the cat side, as there, if you posted 20 pictures everyday, you'd get just as many replies, and also they even reply to stories that you share, as the dog side don't usually.

Unfortunatly i have to disagree with you there Robyn, last time i posted something about my dear Yumi cat (Who i am crazy about and LOVE dearly) i got about a 3 whole replys , and it was something quite important to my myself and to Yumi.

I have plenty of photos and videos of her that i am going to post in the next couple of days or when i have the time . And Robyn i LOVE seeing photos and hearing/ reading about your pups *Couch* Jasper especially *Cough*.

[EssTer]

When I came first here PT was bit different.... I´ve noticed that quite many great members arent here anymore.. and it´s just sad

[lbaker]

I have and love cats and dogs, and now a snake.. and absolutely ADORE some special bunnies and birds I've "met" here. I don't take sides. I also visit General and the DogHouse and every other thread I have time for. I usually go to "Today's Topics" to see what's going on. I just go on from there. I happen to love a monkey named Mario and also a frog named Sipowitz. Years ago there was a buffalo as "PetoftheDay" that made me smile for weeks. That duck that would sneak up onto "Grandma's" kitchen counter too! Sides? Who has time or energy or even a desire to TAKE SIDES when it comes to our beloved pets? That's why Karen and Paul named this PET OF THE DAY. There are plenty of special WEB sites that specialize in a particular breed or species. This site encompasses them all, AND THAT'S THE POINT