Downloading Music

[tikeyas_mom]

Originally posted by binka_nugget
I think (for the most part), downloading music is stealing. It's whether or not you care (or even admit it).

I dont care, I admit that lol. I dont care if I burn a cd or download a movie. I mean common I am not going to go out and buy a new CD for 25$ when it only has one song on it that I like on it. What is the point, there isnt any... Sooooo, you pay for the internet, and use a dowloading process and download music then burn it on a blank CD. tell the stores to stop selling the damn blank rewritable cds if you dont want ppl to burn music onto them. .

[popcornbird]

Originally posted by trayi52
I am sorry to bring this up, but when you buy a computer game, you can make a backup of it in case something happens to the original CD, but you can use it on only one computer. Even if you bought it and you own it, you still have to buy different games to put on a different computer. Companies like Microsoft consider it stealing if you put it on more than one computer. If you are going to use it on another computer, then like the schools that run a certain program, then you have to pay extra for that too.
Read the labels. If it says you can share it then it is okay.
If you notice with the new operating system XP, it is only allowed to be used on one computer, you buy the system, install it on your computer and then try installing it on another computer.

I use the copy on my computer........the one where I installed the original CD, and the original we use anywhere. I don't think there's anything wrong with it if we make a duplicate of something we bought, and don't share it with ANYONE other than ourselves. We bought it. But I've only done this to like two games anyway. At least I hope there's nothing wrong with it. I would hate to do something *wrong*.

[2kitties]

great. another teen with no regard for the difference between right and wrong. Just what we need.

[Rio and Me]

Exactly Tikeyasmom they make its so easy, its on a plate for people to take!
ok so its stealing from artist who "dont" make alot of money, but they DO make alot more money than i and some others who burn CD's!
its not doing any harm really!
Ky and rio

[tikeyas_mom]

Originally posted by 2kitties
great. another teen with no regard for the difference between right and wrong. Just what we need.

I know the difference between right and wrong but i dont think burning a mix cd is wrong because it isnt IMO..

[2kitties]

Nobody said anything about burning a mix cd. That is legal. It is not legal, though, if you've stolen the music.

And Ky, your logic is just backward. You continue to argue over and over ad nausea that it is okay to steal so long as it is easy. You want to do whatever you want and lay the blame on everyone else.
Thieves can be thieves all they want- but take responsibility for your actions.
At least T_M admits she knows it's wrong but doesn't care. So, if busted, I assume she'll own up to her actions and take responsiblity. You'll just continue to hunt for someone else to blame.

[Rio and Me]

I never said that it is someone else's fault, i was stateing that it is easy for anyone to do it!
I do amitt that i burn CD's for a copy for myself and SOMETIMES for a friend! IF i was caught i would admitt it!!
you dont know me and what i would do if i was caught, so you are just assuming AGAIN of what i would do!
Did you read my words saying "it is ok to steal"? NO because a wrote no such thing!!
Ky and Rio

[2kitties]

Originally posted by Rio and Me
its not doing any harm really!
Ky and rio

In this post and most of your posts, you say it is okay to steal. Just like in the above quote. Reread your own posts, Ky, very carefully this time.

[babolaypo65]

Originally posted by Rio and Me
Exactly Tikeyasmom they make its so easy, its on a plate for people to take!
ok so its stealing from artist who "dont" make alot of money, but they DO make alot more money than i and some others who burn CD's!
its not doing any harm really!
Ky and rio

How do you know it isn't doing any harm? Are there not folks whose job it is to mix the cd, the sound engineers, the producers, directors.... someone to press the CD, to package it, to market it? You take from all of their incomes. The artist earns less than he would if you hadnt stolen his music, the fellow in Tower records earns less money than he would had you bought the music. The mom and pop store earns less money.

I don't mean to be rude but I find the argument that it's easy, therefore excuseable, to be laughable.
If someone leaves a briefcase on their front step for a moment it would be so easy for me to take it. I could do it in 5 seconds, and aren't they really asking for it, after all, being so irresponsible??

[Rio and Me]

Ok sorry 2kitties i did say it wasnt doing any harm! but i didnt say that it makes it right!
ok since if had a computor i have mixed 3 CD's (which i have brought) for my own use, copyed 1 of my mixed CD's (which i made) for a friend, copy 2 CD's for my gran (which she to brought), so out of all the CD's ive burnt have ALL been payed for!
it is illegal, its is easy to do, it does not make it excusable, i would take punishment for my crime, i will buy more CD's mix them and keep them!
Ky and Rio

[2kitties]

I quit Ky. I don't know how many times I have to say this.
If you buy the cd and make a mix for yourself- you have broken no laws. If you steal music to make your mixes, however, you have broken a law. You also can't copy your cds to give to other people.

I give up.

[popcornbird]

Originally posted by 2kitties
I quit Ky. I don't know how many times I have to say this.
If you buy the cd and make a mix for yourself- you have broken no laws. If you steal music to make your mixes, however, you have broken a law. You also can't copy your cds to give to other people.

I give up.

That's why I don't think what I do is illegal. I buy a CD and make a copy for myself...........no one else touches it. If I were making copies for friends.....now THAT would be illegal. I wouldn't do that, although more than half the world does.

[Rio and Me]

2kitties you dont have to repeat yourself, i "herd" you the first time!
so out of all this i did 1 thing illegal (which i was not aware of, i am now,lol) thats i giving a burned CD away!
so thats it 1 thing all this arguing, sheesh
Ky and Rio

[babolaypo65]

Originally posted by popcornbird
That's why I don't think what I do is illegal. I buy a CD and make a copy for myself...........no one else touches it. If I were making copies for friends.....now THAT would be illegal. I wouldn't do that, although more than half the world does.

exactly, when you buy a cd you buy that right. to make an archive copy for yourself.

[Rio and Me]

ok i get it now!!!
im not the only one whos done it and there are far worse things in the world than burning CD's!
such as animal neglect!
Ky and Rio