Aren't we your friends too?

[catnapper]

PCB, I was just like you when I was younger, I had many many more friends many years older than me. My best friend was 60, and I was 19. I love her to pieces and she is still one of my closest friends today. I married a man 9 years older than me. I have always gotten along with older peole than those my age. So I understand how you want to hang out with us more, and we welcome everyone. Thats what I love most about PT.

I am often amazed at the maturity level of many of our younger posters. Sometimes you have feeling way beyond your years. Though there are a few though that have a serious amount of maturing to do. I htink that its sometimes overwhelming for the older PTers to relate to some of the younger ones posts.

Kay, you are not one of the ones I was referring to! I feel that you are eloquent and bright. I have never had any issues with any of your posts. the few that you have posted about school made sense - like your one friend with the eyeliner. That made me think. Those are not the posts I'm refering to! I'm refering to the pointless ones where someone says "wah, my mom is so mean because she won't let me go to xyz on friday." or "my nosey little brother peeked in my diary again" Not yours, ok? I never would insult you {{{hugs}}}

[kimlovescats]

Originally posted by jazzcat
I think Kimlovescats and Sirrahbed have a great idea because they will cross post between General and Cat General so everyone will see like with grandbaby news, baby shower gifts and gift swap pictures. I think that is a great idea to make sure everyone gets the news.

Thank you for mentioning this, Lori. I know we really DO try to include everyone!

I have two doggies myself, but am consumed with my 18 cats so much, that I tend to only chat about them! It certainly is not an intentional thing.

I would just like to say that Pet Talk is so large, that it would be very difficult for everyone to really feel close to everyone else. I don't think that having a few PTers that you feel a bit closer to is a bad thing .... as long as you do still try to involve yourself in other posts as well. But none of us has the time (I would say) to visit all the boards and post to all the threads. That is why there are separate boards in the first place .... right?

Kim

[zippy-kat]

Ok, on the flip side of things...

Lately there have been NUMEROUS animal related posts on the General board. Why don't those people post where they are suppose to? Why not address this issue with them, too? Why focus directly on the cat people? (Those are completely rhetorical questions - it honestly doesn't bother me a bit.)

I will, however, mention that the "Pet" side of things is GREATLY ignored and that's a possible explanation of why rat/bunny/horse/etc owners post topics on the general board. Not to sound whiney, but because of the fact that no one reads the Pet sections (esp. health), I haven't posted about Piper's (possible) upcoming surgery - just mentioned it to the friends who PM, email, or chat with me on AIM. That's beside the point...



Bottom line is, I mostly post where I feel at home which is the cat, pet, and general sections of the board.

[pitc9]

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Originally posted by DogLover9501*SOMETIMES* To me it seems like the cat-side is a bit more friendly, because sometimes it seems on the dog-side that SOME people play favorites, and reply to 'friends' threads or 'favored' dogs and not others,
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I agree!!

Just the other day was the first time I posted in CG, (pix of my parents new kitten)

At the same time I posted pix of my pups on the dog side.

I checked back on both threads in a few hours, and twice the number of people had replied to my post in CG then in DG.
And that was my FIRST time ever posting in CG!!!

I feel like I am not in a "click" and most of my threads so unnoticed. Even if people say "You should post more pix"
I do.. then only 3 or 4 people reply and they are always the same people (thank you!!!)

We all have to admit, that their ARE clicks.

I agree about age between the cat and dog side being the difference in just about everything!! Younger people tend to form "clicks" more. And here I am.. 28... and feeling like I'm back in high school trying to make friends with the "cool" people on the dog side and just waiting to see who replies to my newest thread. And I know if one of the other members in the click posts at the same time... mine will never be read.


Oh well.. I'm done

[jazzcat]

One more comment from me and I'll hush. If you will look on Cat General you will notice that a lot of us tend to lump all cat related things on that board such as rescue, health and behavior because we know that a large number of members never read anything but CG. In the past I've posted health questions in Cat Health and got one or two responses but then posted it in general and got lots of replies. I think Cat General is just the main and only "catch all" board for many members. I don't think it's a "I don't like anyone but cat people" kind of issue.

Just another of my two cents.

[neko1]

Originally posted by pitc9

I feel like I am not in a "click" and most of my threads so unnoticed. Even if people say "You should post more pix"
I do.. then only 3 or 4 people reply and they are always the same people (thank you!!!)

We all have to admit, that their ARE clicks.

I agree about age between the cat and dog side being the difference in just about everything!! Younger people tend to form "clicks" more. And here I am.. 28... and feeling like I'm back in high school trying to make friends with the "cool" people on the dog side and just waiting to see who replies to my newest thread. And I know if one of the other members in the click posts at the same time... mine will never be read.


Oh well.. I'm done

I agree...I'm 27 and I feel like the 'outsider'. While I feel more comfortable on the cat side as opposed to general, I still have no good friends, no one to PM, no one to chat with on aim, no one to meet with..etc. Guess that's why I pretty much gave up on posting a lot anymore..just basically a lurker now.... Although when I do post something, I seem to get more of a response in Cat General.

Sorry for the depressed loser rant...bad habit of mine

[jenluckenbach]

If you will look on Cat General you will notice that a lot of us tend to lump all cat related things on that board such as rescue, health and behavior because we know that a large number of members never read anything but CG. In the past I've posted health questions in Cat Health and got one or two responses but then posted it in general and got lots of replies. I think Cat General is just the main and only "catch all" board for many members

I kinda wanted to make this point too. It may not be "proper" but if we want to get replies from the people we know the best, we sometimes have to post it in a place that we KNOW it will get seen.

I try very hard to put health in health and rescue in rescue, but so many people miss them (time restrictions again) that I tend to bend the rules so I can reach the CG lurkers.

Think of it this way: If any threads were meant to exclude certain members then they probably wouldn't have been posted at all, they'd have been PM'd.

[jazzcat]

Originally posted by neko1
I agree...I'm 27 and I feel like the 'outsider'. While I feel more comfortable on the cat side as opposed to general, I still have no good friends, no one to PM, no one to chat with on aim, no one to meet with..etc. Guess that's why I pretty much gave up on posting a lot anymore..just basically a lurker now.... Although when I do post something, I seem to get more of a response in Cat General.

Sorry for the depressed loser rant...bad habit of mine

That is why we haven't seen you around much? I feel sad about that. You've been here longer than me and I've always looked to you as one of the 'elder and wiser' ones because age doesn't always distinguish that. I'm 36 and don't think there are a lot my age here either but I enjoy members of all ages. In fact, I don't know the age of most people here only sometimes is it even obvious.

Neko1 - please start posting again. I miss seeing and hearing about your beautiful furbabies!

[Randi]

PCB, I agree that subjects not about animals should be put in General. I really don't think it's neccesary to post the same thread in 3 different Forums! I believe, if people are interested in cats, they'll look in the Cat forums.

I usually log on to "Todays active threads" and don't always notice which Forum a thread is in. I look at the titles, and if I think it's something interesting for me, I'll open it. If I post a thread, I try to put it in the appropiate forum.

I don’t always have time to look at all the threads, so I try to reply to posts interesting for ME, whether it's a newcomer or an "oldie". But I admit, I tend to reply more to the posts from the members I know, and that’s because it’s easier – I know more of the background already. Sometimes I don’t have time to look through them all, so it can be a bit random which I reply to – but usually the ones on the first few pages. Then later, I try to catch the ones I missed. BUT, there are certain posters I’ll always look for.

As most of you know, I’m a catperson, but I HAVE posted in the Dogforum too.

There are certain threads I don’t bother to open, these are “I’m bored� and titles which don’t really say what it’s about.

Even though I don’t post as much as I used to (limited time ) I don’t feel left out. I’m aware that cliques? have been formed over the years, but I don’t have a problem with that. I think it’s nice that some members“click� and get to know each other better – I have got some very good friends here, and have met some of them too. When I joined, there were probably only half the members and it was easier to keep up and get to know everybody. There are still some I’d like to know better, but to do that, you have to invest the time.

That’s it for now!

[bluekat]

PCB and others who agree with her, I know what you mean by feeling excluded from the cat people. But I'm not saying that its completely wrong for some general related threads to be in Cat General only. I know some people only post in the cat side, and I see nothing wrong with that. If I only posted on the cat side, I would probably post threads that belong in general in cat general too. Because if you only post on the cat side, then you wouldn't feel as comfortable with the rest of PT that don't post there. And those people might not want to come over to general also, if they're only here because they love cats and only want a cat-related forum.

For those of you who have cats and don't feel welcome on the cat side, then maybe its simply because you don't post about them as often as you should! Because when people post pictures of their cats, I mostly reply to those that I like the most first, which are usually the ones I see the most of. I don't really have that much time to look at every single thread there, so I go to my favorites first.

And I do go over to Dog General everyday. I don't know if I'm "welcomed" there or not, but I don't really think about it that much. I just go to look at the pictures and reply because I love dogs.

I don't really understand how you can feel unwelcomed on the cat side or anything. You just have to come over more and get to know us better I guess...
When I first started going over to the dog side, I felt kind of uncomfortable. But then soon I was fine and I loved going there.

But I do have to agree that the cat side seems more friendly and close...I have never seen a thread there where people were fighting but I have seen a couple in the dog side.

[popcornbird]

Originally posted by zippy-kat


I will, however, mention that the "Pet" side of things is GREATLY ignored and that's a possible explanation of why rat/bunny/horse/etc owners post topics on the general board. Not to sound whiney, but because of the fact that no one reads the Pet sections (esp. health), I haven't posted about Piper's (possible) upcoming surgery - just mentioned it to the friends who PM, email, or chat with me on AIM. That's beside the point...

That is so true. The Pet side DOES seem to be ignored a lot, which is sad, because we all value our birdies, bunnies, guinea pigs, rodents, reptiles, whatever, as much as everyone else values their dogs and cats.

Catnapper, I have always been like that...ever since I was a child. I have always liked hanging out with older people. I feel I can talk to them about things without getting a biased response. Older people usually respond with experience, and they give great advice, something you can't exactly get from younger people...just because they haven't lived enough to have that experience in life. I remember having a very good friend who was 20 years old, when I was just 7 or 8. She was the daughter of one of my mom's friends, and whenever my mom would go to visit her mom, she would take me along. She had younger brothers, and she was the only girl, so I ended up becoming her friend. We were very close. She used to play with me, show me things in the yard, take me for a walk, etc. I enjoyed spending time with her, and preferred her friendship to the friendship of kids my own age. I cried when she got married and moved to Chicago.

In general, I do have friends who are my age, or close to my age, and I do enjoy them too, but there is something about people older than me that I love. I think its because the friendship that forms with someone older than you is usually based on respect and understanding, while it is different with those the same age as you.

Kay...I'm not taking your thoughts. You're taking mine. Is the world coming to an end? He he he!!! Just kidding!

[rosethecopycat]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by micki76
[B]I've noticed that too. I've posted a few times in Cat General, but I usually don't really feel comfortable there. Kinda like I'm intruding in their world.



Likewise. I don't go to the dog side because, I don't have a dog, and I really am a cat person. I can relate, and I'm sure that you dog/pet people love yours as much as I love mine, but I don't have really anything to say. I have no knowledge of dogs.
As for the other forums, if the day were 36 hours long, I'd spend some time there too.

I agree that off topic posts should go to General. (I just skip over them)

PCB-

You got me over here, and enlightened me to more of the whole PT experience, but I can't say I'll venture off the Cat General, Cat Rescue.
I'm sure there are a lot of nice people, all around. I would welcome anybody to the cat side, if they are interested.

Rosethecopycat

[NoahsMommy]

Originally posted by jenluckenbach
I kinda wanted to make this point too. It may not be "proper" but if we want to get replies from the people we know the best, we sometimes have to post it in a place that we KNOW it will get seen.

I try very hard to put health in health and rescue in rescue, but so many people miss them (time restrictions again) that I tend to bend the rules so I can reach the CG lurkers.

Think of it this way: If any threads were meant to exclude certain members then they probably wouldn't have been posted at all, they'd have been PM'd.

I couldn't have said what I was thinking any better than this.

Pet Talk is not just a fun, social community. Its a resource for people that have animals. If I have 8 cats, its obvious where I'd spend the majority of my time and that most of my PT friends would be cat people, right? Its not about exclusion at all, just about logistics.

I would expect the same with someone with 2 dogs...or 2 birds or 10 hamsters.

[primabella]

Nobody put up borders to these places so everyone should just be able to post wherever they wish. I don't see the reason why we need to feel intimidated by any forum and yet I do feel intimidated as well. It's pretty foolish of us, if you think about it. Nobody made a rule about 'only dog people can post in dog general' 'only cat people can post in cat general'..

I remember I posted a thread in Cat General once asking for information and prayers for a friends' cat. I got as much support and advice as I needed and that really helped. We are all ONE forum and so we should all be there for eachother when needed, no matter what pet we own or even if we own a pet at all.

I'm sorry if I sound preachy but I am sort of trying to motivate myself into posting around more often. Although I am quite busy now with registration for college, I do try and reply to as many threads as I can and I do plan on participating in other forums. I know that I sometimes contemplate whether to share pictures of stories because I feel they will either be ignored or will just get pushed down to the bottom of the page.

And I need to say that I do appreciate everyone on this forum, even if I feel like I am usually rejected, I do enjoy Pet Talk for everything it is. (I just need to quit feeling too intimidated to talk in the other forums. )

[swimma253]

I have never been to Cat Talk... dont know why... I guess Ive just never gotten around to it because I am always on dog general, or pet general, or just general. But in Dog General.... I do feel that there are certain cliques(sp?) Some dogs/members get 20 or more posts... because they are favored or there dogs are favored... as a lot of people posted before. When I make boards about Meeka... I get about 4 replies... occasionaly 7. I think its kinda unfair to the people like me... whos pups only get about 4 replies. It kinda hurts my feelings to see that some people get a TON of replies about there dogs... and my Meeka gets very little. I have never been to Cat General... but as many are explaining it.. it seems less.. "cliquish"? (sp?)

Carly