Do you approve?

[Kfamr]

Some of these responses really made me disgusted.

[popcornbird]

Originally posted by Kfamr
Some of these responses really made me disgusted.

Good for you.

I agree with you 2kitties. Let's all agree to disagree and march out of this thread. There's no use arguing about it. This is a VERY hot topic, and everyone has strong opinions on it, that as far as I can see, isn't going to change on either side of the argument.

*Shakes 2kitties' hand, agrees to disagree, smiles, and waves goodbye to everyone else on the thread*

[Kfamr]

Originally posted by popcornbird
Good for you.

[RICHARD]

oh well,

I am going to forgo the discount and use my frequent flier miles for my trip.

The HUGE question that I have is WHY IS RELIGION
flaunted as such a great,loving and forgiving vehicle for peace and getting along when all the while it's the followers of ANY religion that turn it into a devisive tool?

Hokay...... __________ is against MY religion but does that make that person any less?
Should I turn my back on an accident because I suspect the person may be a Baptist? Muslim?
Jehovah's Witness?

Should I not hold the door for a woman who has dark hair because I like blondes?

Should I only go to the tellers at the bank because they are women, I don't deal with men tellers?

You religion tells you to that ____________ is against it's basic tenets, but it also tells you
treat everyone the same.

While it may not be on the up and up in God's eyes , He didn't give anyone the go ahead to smite and judge people because they are different.

Leave it to your God, He's far more qualified to sort out the bad seeds...

Again, Let he without sin cast the first stone....
Straight up in the air and pray that the rock don't land on your head.

[Kfamr]

Richard, I'd be glad to get a ticket with you, you can travel for free. That post was great. "Bravo."

[PepperRSM]

I'm not religious or anything so I want to know why it's such a big "sin" to be gay? (Please don't just say "because god wants it that way"...I don't find that to be a valid argument, i want to know WHY he wants it that way...and I know that it says somewhere that he wants marriage to be between a man and a woman but WHY?) Why keep people who love each other apart? I thought god was about love forgiveness.

I'm 100% for gay marriages. If people love each other then let them get married. It saddens me that this even has to be an issue, I mean why can't we just let them be happy together?

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by PepperRSM
Please don't just say "because god wants it that way"

Let's take 'god' out of the equation.

Now,
What happens to the arguement? There is none.
It become a purely personal opinion..

Now, should you bring the 'natural' arguement up......

What is natural??? Well, pretty much anything..

Since,
Love knows no bounds, colors, size, distance or genders......

There goes THAT arguement!!

That means 50% of the discussion is wrong......

I'll let you guess which 50...

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Speaking of 50%...

K,

Let's split the freebie, o.k.?

[Logan]

Those of you who don't agree with us "religious" types need to at least respect our opinions. I don't see anyone trying to overcome your opinions, just stating their own.

If anyone is bold enough in this group to state that they are "against" gay marriages, allow them to do so!!! I've actually remained quiet because all of my arguments are religiously based, and I don't want to get into the fray.

But, I do accept and appreciate what any of you have to say, regardless of your stance. And so many of you are very well spoken! Allow some leniency here for those of differing opinons to state their too!!!

[PepperRSM]

I do respect your opinions, sorry if it doesn't really seem that way, discussions make me a little....harsh I guess you could say. So, sorry and sorry in advance if I say anything else mean/hurtful.

I'm just wondering why god wants it that way. I'm actually interested in those of you who are into religion, because I don't really know anything about it. I want to know what you've been taught about why god wants it this way.

I'm just curious, that's all. I just want to understand it from your side.

[Kfamr]

I respect your opinions and I understand that you follow as 'God says', but I don't understand how some are able to support the law, and basically say that their beliefs, opinions, and such are meant for everyone. As if everyone has to follow by them. And that's exactly what banning Gay marriages, and what most religious people's "arguments" are doing or saying.

[BitsyNaceyDog]

I'm not judging gays, or hating them. I know gay people, and don't hate them. They are simply miss-led and lost, like most of you. God does want all of us in heaven with him, however gave us that choice.

Being Gay is not a "big sin" there are no big or small sins in Gods eye, they are all just sins. However it's our sins that condemn people to an eturnity in hell. People put the lable "Big" on it.

[primabella]

Not even to get into the argument but..I totally agree with it. I have a strong belief in God but I just don't see the problem here. God allowed me to have free will which means I am able to have my own opinions on certain things. That's how I feel, anyhow.

That's all I'm going to say.

[PepperRSM]

I don't understand why it's a sin, though. Why is it wrong to be gay? Why does god want it that way?

[popcornbird]

Originally posted by PepperRSM
I don't understand why it's a sin, though. Why is it wrong to be gay? Why does god want it that way?

God wants it that way because God created two different genders.......male and female, and wants both genders to be who they are. Being gay is against manhood/womanhood. Males aren't supposed to attract males, or vice versal, just like the same poles on a magnet don't attract each other...they repel, but the opposite poles attract. From a religious point of view, God did not make anyone gay. Just like God did not make anyone a thief, or a murderer, etc. They choose their own lifestyle. When one gets so involved in sin, they get addicted, and begin to think it is a part of them. Satan is around all the time and will always continue to push people into committing sins. When they become so addicted to what they are doing, they begin to think its a part of them, and close their minds to changing, or repenting. You know how you all say its hard to leave smoking once you start? Same thing. Its hard to leave sinning once you start. It certainly isn't who they are, but who they made themselves to be.

So, in answer to your question, God wants us to be who He made us. He doesn't want us to change His creation, and being gay is changing the manhood or womanhood that God created in us.

I hope this answers your question, though there are other reasons too. I just don't want to get into an argument, but I don't want to leave your question unanswered either. I respect all of you for having your opinions and wish that you would all have the same respect for others too.

*waves goodbye again* (I only returned so your question doesn't remain unanswered)

[Uabassoon]

While I do try hard to understand those who are against homosexulaity due to religious reasons, I don't understand how or why the law has to follow these religious reasonings. There is "supposed" to be a seperation of church and state. Growing up I was told that America's values were based and equal rights for all citizens. It wasn't until I got older that I learned things don't work that way. Not allowing gay marriages isn't going to stop gay couples from living together and raising children. Personally I would rather see a married gay couple raising a child than an unmarried gay couple raising a child. But sadly that may never happen because people don't know how to keep their own religious beliefs out of our laws. I personally don't see this issue as Bush allowing or not allowing gay marriages. But it's an issue of Bush wanting to take away/not give equal rights to all citizens.