Ugh... WTF????

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by 2kitties
How about we all go have a gay marriage then go watch The Passion- only if I can sit next to a pedophile priestm, a child abuser, a murder, an adulterer and card carrying members of the NRA and KKK...and throw in Monica Lewinsky on the lap of an Ex-president

...Did I get them all in there?

lololol, I see at least three discounts.

Under age kids, seniors and a group rate......

[Logan]

Originally posted by Edwina's Secretary
Logan....in the past President Bush has said that his belief was that this should be an issue left to the states...i.e. State's Rights. Now he supports a constitutional amendment.

I realize we all have the right to change our mind, but I am curious as to what has occurred to cause him to changes his mind since the last election???

I don't know the answer to that, Sarah, but maybe in time, he will explain it further. Perhaps he is taking a stronger stance because of what has been happening in CA in the last few weeks. I just don't know.

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by Logan
because of what has been happening in CA in the last few weeks. I just don't know.

It has nothing to do with what happens IN Cah-lee-fuh-nee-ah.....It's been going on for a long time.....we are able to keep secrets, that's all


It's all a clever ploy by the GWB campaign braintrust to win over the biblethumping, conservative, Bible Belt, middle of the road,
did I mention the Bible???? demographic.

[kevinrats]

This is actually really funny.

You post something in the doghouse. Under that it says CONTROVERSIAL topics.

Then, when I, actually start a controversy (GASP!) I get called a troll, and an 80 year old man or something, or at least not who I say I am.
And I have not put down any of down for your beliefs and values, so you you stop doing it to me? It would be much appreciated.


Well, I am a 15 year old freshman in high school. All I am doing is stating my opinion. Is that terrible? I guess.

I have mixed up some of my messages. I am sorry. Really. But I am a freshman, not out of highschool like most of you. I am not too smart, and I am trying to argue my opinion. Its hard for me.

It is my opinion. Please get this straight, because you don't seem to get it now.

[Kfamr]

Is being 15 and a freshman your excuse?

[kevinrats]

Um, no actually Kfamr. As you will read above, they called me a troll posing as a 14 year old. I just wanted to clarify.

[Kfamr]

LOLOL- oKay.

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by kevinrats
Um, no actually Kfamr. As you will read above, they called me a troll posing as a 14 year old. I just wanted to clarify.

Cool, we can get you into the movie with your student ID!

The arguement at hand is actually more complex than just 'gay' marriage, the government and constitutional amendments....

One of the biggest problems is the "Jesus loves everyone" line that everyone uses.....

Well, if Jesus loves everyone,does that leave
us humans to hate each other while we believe in his teachings????

I am trying to figure that one out.

[trayi52]

How about we all go have a gay marriage then go watch The Passion- only if I can sit next to a pedophile priestm, a child abuser, a murder, an adulterer and card carrying members of the NRA and KKK...and throw in Monica Lewinsky on the lap of an Ex-president

Oh! 2kitties I would rather find out my child was homosexual than to find them to be the above mentioned. I think Homosexuality is just a class of people like we are. I would not even put them in the same catagory as the child abusers, KKK, NRA, etc. But I do get your point.

[2kitties]

just sarcasm, trayi

[kevinrats]

Okay. Since you keep bringing this up, do you want to know what the Bible says about gay relationships and gay marriage?

It says that being gay is not a sin. It says specifically that acting on being gay, like having relations with other men/women is a sin.

And who used the "Jesus Loves Everyone" line?

I'm sure this will just fuel the fire.

[2kitties]

Alright, if we want to get all biblical, then let's take of the gloves.
If we are going to go so far as to take what the bible says as literal, as you seem to want to do Kevin, then let's go ahead and amend the Constitution based on it.

The US Constitutional Marriage Amendment.....
A. Marriage in the United States shall consist of a union between one man and one or more women. (Gen 29:17-28; II Sam 3:2-5)

B. Marriage shall not impede a man's right to take concubines, in addition to his wife or wives. (II Sam 5:13; I Kings 11:3; II Chron 11:21)

C. A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed. (Deut 22:13-21)

D. Marriage of a believer and a non-believer shall be forbidden. (Gen 24:3; Num 25:1-9; Ezra 9:12; Neh 10:30)

E. Since marriage is for life, neither this Constitution nor the constitution of any State, nor any state or federal law, shall be construed to permit divorce. (Deut 22:19; Mark 10:9)

F. If a married man dies without children, his brother shall marry the widow. If he refuses to marry his brother's widow or deliberately does not give her children, he shall pay a fine of one shoe, and be otherwise punished in a manner to be determined by law. (Gen. 38:6-10; Deut 25:5-10)

G. In lieu of marriage, if there are no acceptable men in your town, it is required that you get your dad drunk and have sex with him (even ifhe had previously offered you up as a sex toy to men young and old), tag-teaming with any sisters you may have. Of course, this rule applies only if you are female. (Gen 19:31-36)

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by kevinrats


It says that being gay is not a sin. It says specifically that acting on being gay, like having relations with other men/women is a sin.

Forget the Jesus Loves Everyone......I have...


Now you can THINK you are gay but when you ACT on it you are a sinner....


NOW.....What does the rule say about having 'impure thoughts'???

[Kfamr]

I asked alot of people in school today what the thought of Gay Marriages and everything of the sort.

Even the most religious people I know, people who go to church, people who wear crosses religiously.. Said there's nothing bothering them with it so why not?

Alot also brought up stuff like a person in a gay couple to be there with their partner and make decisions if they've gotten seriously hurt or ill.


I really just don't understand why or how it bothers some people. It's not like they're trying to marry you, corrupting our society, or hurting anyone psyhically. Mentally, maybe - but that's their fault.

Most people who are against it don't even have a fight or an argument against it. They say it's wrong, they say it's against 'God'. Well, not everyone believes in that. They have their rights to believe in it, but they have no right to stop two people of the same sex from loving each other and owning a peice of paper saying they're legally married.


And really, if we're going to go about the Bible with everything that happens in the world, many many things should be 'banned'.

There's far more things in this world that people should take their time with other than worrying what John and Steve, or Mary and Louelle are doing with their lives.

[kevinrats]

Impure thoughts is under adultery in the ten commandments for everyone.

If a man even thinks of a woman in an impure way, he has already committed adultery with her and needs to repent.

Thats what it says about impure thoughts.