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    Ash,

    Did you ever ask Mike if you could have her back?

    Katz

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    I have to agree with what al ot of others have already said...
    First, very few dogs are coming to come perfectly trained, no issues. Doesn't matter if you get a puppy, a rescue, whatever, if a perfectly trained dog will have to adjust to a new situation.
    Second, sad though it is, many dogs in shelters are afriad of men. Many dogs end up in shlters becuase they have been beaten, neglected, or abused, and often (though not always) by men. That doesn't not mean all men are bad. As we all know there are wonderful dog loving men This is also ap roblem that can be overcame. People have given many examples of that and I can add my own. Two of my mom's dogs have seemed to have issues with men Dazzi and Snoopy. With exposure to my Dad, Ralph, Brian and other men at the Dog Park etc, they are doing mch better...although they both do still shy away sometimes. It is something that they continue to work on.

    Third, do not take everything personally. Your parents do have the ultimate say and there isn't anything you can do about that until you move out of their house. So, if this doesn't work with Sheeba, I wold be hesitant to get another dog. Enjoy Teddy and Honey, and once you move out and once you finish college ( or have housing allowing a dog, if that is the route you take) then get the dog YOU want and train it the way YOU want. Then it is your responsiblity and your resonsibilty alone. Yours to make decisions on and have th final say on. As Leslie said, that is the mature thing to do.

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    Originally posted by Cincy'sMom
    I have to agree with what al ot of others have already said...
    First, very few dogs are coming to come perfectly trained, no issues. Doesn't matter if you get a puppy, a rescue, whatever, if a perfectly trained dog will have to adjust to a new situation.
    Second, sad though it is, many dogs in shelters are afriad of men. Many dogs end up in shlters becuase they have been beaten, neglected, or abused, and often (though not always) by men. That doesn't not mean all men are bad. As we all know there are wonderful dog loving men This is also ap roblem that can be overcame. People have given many examples of that and I can add my own. Two of my mom's dogs have seemed to have issues with men Dazzi and Snoopy. With exposure to my Dad, Ralph, Brian and other men at the Dog Park etc, they are doing mch better...although they both do still shy away sometimes. It is something that they continue to work on.

    Third, do not take everything personally. Your parents do have the ultimate say and there isn't anything you can do about that until you move out of their house. So, if this doesn't work with Sheeba, I wold be hesitant to get another dog. Enjoy Teddy and Honey, and once you move out and once you finish college ( or have housing allowing a dog, if that is the route you take) then get the dog YOU want and train it the way YOU want. Then it is your responsiblity and your resonsibilty alone. Yours to make decisions on and have th final say on. As Leslie said, that is the mature thing to do.
    Well said!
    Also, the suggestion of volunteering at the shelter is very good. There are things you might learn there, too!! Good luck, Ash!
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    Originally posted by aly
    When a dog is adopted, they go through a "honeymoon period" where they are adjusting to the new environment. It lasts about 2 weeks until they finally realize they live there and you will see a change it behavior - it could be for the better or for the worse. I think with consistent training and work with Sheeba, she would settle down and learn some manners. She needs to have a firm, loving hand and know a routine. I honestly don't feel it would take too much time to turn her around. She's still so young and as you say, she's sweet. I don't think she's been given enough adjustment time.
    Oh, so very true. Millie HATED men at 1st too. All it took was TIME. And she's 3+ years old!
    Ash, just please stop getting these dogs and then getting rid of them when they don't work out. It's just not FAIR.
    How would you like to live in an orphanage, get adopted and get sent back all in one week because you were AFRAID of your new dad???? I'm sorry, but your family doesn't need a dog. None of you are responsible enough for it.

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    I havn't read all the post, so please forgive me if I say anythign that was already said.

    I am so proud of my Sheeba baby!!!!! She has offically fallin in lvoe with my dad and sad to say I think she likes him more then me Which is great that way my dad will never feel like he needs to worry about her. now of course Sheeba is my dog and because she does have some doggie issues will probly be an only dog most of her life, but I am totallty fine with that. Because she has fallin in love with my dad and we have talked it thourgh we now have a method of how to make her fall in love with the men in my family. Pretty much it consit of my dad or the man haveing treats in there pocket and any tiem they see Sheeba, they give her a treat. So men are now the people who give her treats and she follows them around like a little puppy dog. So adorable! i totally agree Micki! It isn't far to Sheeba to have to go back to the shelter because of somethign that happned on her first day, I mean come on this was her first day. Sunday has really changed our minds about her, we really think that she will be able to love men and all people! I can't wait to begin to work with her. I am going to call my trainer this afternoon and see what she thinks I should do and maybe she can give me some tips. I don't think she is agressive at all, I really do think that she is a huggable pup! LOl it was soooo funny. When yo uturn off all the lights and get into bed Sheeba turns into one big guard dog . My brother came home one night around 1 and as soon as he began to mess with the door Sheeba growled and lunged at the door and refused ot let him in (only does this at night when our bedtime things go on, liek turning off of the lights and getting into bed). Of course I pulled her away and my brother came in and once she relized I knew him she settled down right away! She is sooo protective of me, we really have seemed to click! Me and my dad have talked about it and we have deced to give her some time to settle in to the home and then see how she acts, the only last person to ask about it is my brother, who I'm afreid will say no because of the whole door incedent thing last night. And if he says no and says he is really really uncomfortble around her I'm afried my dad will make me take her back so I'm going to look on the interent for things that say how bad it is to give a dog back to the shelter and how it scars them and stuff (I know I've read it soemwhere). Also, I'm going to bring up the point that it only took her less then an hour of my dad carriing around treats to convince her he is nice. So I am going to try to convince them, wish me luck! I am goign to show him all the post on here about your guy's dogs, I know it will help convince him! But I do want to state one more time! If my brother says he is really uncomftble around her my dad will most likly make me give her up. And I don't think I will be getting another dog, I agree 100% with some of adoremydog's state ments. I don't think my parents are willing to work with a dog and I don't feel it is fare for another dog to coem into a home who is not willing to help it adjust, it is a big change for a dog and they need that time to get used to the people and place, and sometime, they need a little bit of help getting though some old habbits, but when your gettign an older dog you just have to learn to accept it, and I don't think my parents will exept that fact that dogs come with baggage, just like people.

    tomkatzid- Tiffy was not my dog. I was puppy sitting and of course I asked for her back, but Mike acctaulyl gave her away, we are prayign to a good home!!

    Well I'm going to take her into the backyard and play around and take some pictures of her!

    Ash

    ps: I almost left pet talk, afried of what you guys could have said about me on the threads and I was really worried abotu Checking to see what you have said here. But I should have known you guys always pull through for me and I will always be gratefull for you! Thank you so much for givign me suggestions, I will take them and use them and you gusy have been such a help!

    pss: Adore my dogs- I just wanted to let you know, your post might have been harsh, but most of it was the truth.
    Last edited by Aspen and Misty; 03-03-2003 at 03:55 PM.
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    Im so glad! I really hope you can keep her! she sounds like such an angel evdn if she isnt to sure about guys. lol
    GOOD LUCK!




    post the pics as soon as you get em!

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    Oh that is such great news! I am so happy for you, Sheeba, and your family for making the whole situation work out! I hope your brother will begin to trust Sheeba, and that Sheeba will trust him! Good luck!
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    Now jut remeber this is a I might be able to keep her still. Her personality is such a big factor in this and she has the best personalitly. I've also been tryign to make my prents understnad that older dogs come with baggage and it just takes a couple of weeks for them to relize they are safe and in there new forever home.

    LOL

    Ash
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    BTW- She really does like my dad lol (more to come!)

    Yes she IS sitting on him, LOL

    Ash
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    omg, i am SO happy for you and i'm glad you didn't leave pet talk. it's good you are giving her another chance, it was worth it, wasn't it?

    i hope sheeba does something that will win your bro's trust i can't wait to see the pics. she is adorable and sounds like a big sweetie! congrats

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    I'm with Primabella! So glad you decided not to leave PT! I wish you all best with Sheeba! With your positive attitude, she'll have the best chance at success! I think if your brother treats her with love and acceptance and gives her a chance to open up her heart to him, she'll be just fine! Paws crossed! She's such a sweetheart and I know how happy she's making you!!! {{{hugs}}}

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    I'm so glad you decided to stay at Pet Talk And your not leaving it just wouldn't be the same here with out you. I really hope that everything works out with Sheeba and that you can keep her. She is a really beautiful dog and she looks like a real sweetheart! Sheeba and you will be in my thoughts and prayers.
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    Ash, I am so glad you are not leaving Pet Talk.
    Lots of kisses to Sheeba, and hope that she
    is able to become a happy member of your family.


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    Ash--she is sooo sweet!!
    I'm glad things are turning around for her, and it looks like she looves your dad, and I'm sure your brother will not be too far in the future. Kito liked my dad first, and then my brother, I don't know why, but it took him a little longer to trust my brother.
    I can't wait to meet her!!!!!
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    Hey Ash - So glad you have decided to stay and also so glad that Sheeba may work out. They do change a lot while they are adjusting so just be patient and I'm sure your brother will come around.

    I would sign her up for obedience ASAP. She needs to be socialized around other dogs and as many people as possible. Since we have no idea about her history, you should just assume she's had no socialization and start with a clean slate.
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