Insane barking... Update: Problem solved..NOW disscussing feedings/crating/etc on pg4

[king2005]

I would feed them in the early morning as you are, and also again during that 3pm to bed time frame when they are out. I would personally hate to go 24 hours between feedings!

Yes, leaving food and water in the crate will make them either go or be miserable trying to hold it until you get home.

I don't know.. the 2 feedings a day really isn't want I like... I might do the kibble in the morning & a bit of rice with vitamins in the evening, to make sure both are getting proper viatmins & Minerals... As mr. Biggles is older & Bear is on a diet food, so shes gonna feel like shes being starved & ripped off lol

[applesmom]

Feeding once a day is something I prefer, as long as its 2 cups or less.. anything higher then 2 cups, needs to be broken up into 2 feedings. Bear only gets 2 cups, so I'm comfy with the single feeding. Only for now, Mr. Biggles needs his food in his kennel, other wise he wont get to eat until 3pm, if Chad has to leave when he wakes up... thats not fair...

Here's a thought though! Since they're only being fed once every 24 hours, perhaps you could change that one feeding to after 3pm when you are home with them and will be able to let them out. That should eliminate the majority of accidents immediatly.

[king2005]

Here's a thought though! Since they're only being fed once every 24 hours, perhaps you could change that one feeding to after 3pm when you are home with them and will be able to let them out. That should eliminate the majority of accidents immediatly.

Right now they are fed all day long, because they wern't eatting at all (new enviroment), & Bear needed to eat so she wouldn't get sicker. Now that both dogs are eatting, they can start on a proper schedual.

They'll have from 6-6:30 to eat.. then potty from 6:30-7.. then finish any food from 7-7:30.. then I'm gone at 7:30-7:45... once they get use to that, then they'll have their food pulled at 6:30.... Hmmmm I might just pull it at 6:30, so they are on an identical schedual as my old dog...

My Old dog was fed from 6-6:30.. went out to potty & then was left alone until 5pm when I got home from school. Never had any accidents (only when he was sick, but that doesn't count).

So I'm not too sure how they'll be any different once they get use to the schedual. But I'll see how things go, if it needs to be ajusted, then I'll change it.

[CathyBogart]

Since Biggles is a little guy, I would recommend withholding a little bit of his food (maybe a tablespoon or two) and giving it to him in the evening so he has something in his stomach. It's better for little guys to be fed more frequently, but I know that Jasper is much more likely to have an accident in the middle of the night if I feed him in the evening so I definitely understand the once a day feeding.

I also leave a small, shallow dish of water in Jasper's crate with him. I don't like for him to be without it, even for a few hours. The only time he's had an accident in his crate was when he had giardia.

I'm so glad you got the parking problem solved. I'm actually considering going to pick up one of those collars right now before I leave for school. Taking Jasper to doggy daycare is going to cost almost $500 a month, so if this works for him I think it would be worthwhile...plus, then I could still buy groceries! (yay food!)

I think I'll start a separate thread about debarking so as not to hijack yours any further.

[king2005]

Since Biggles is a little guy, I would recommend withholding a little bit of his food (maybe a tablespoon or two) and giving it to him in the evening so he has something in his stomach. It's better for little guys to be fed more frequently, but I know that Jasper is much more likely to have an accident in the middle of the night if I feed him in the evening so I definitely understand the once a day feeding.

I also leave a small, shallow dish of water in Jasper's crate with him. I don't like for him to be without it, even for a few hours. The only time he's had an accident in his crate was when he had giardia.

I'm so glad you got the parking problem solved. I'm actually considering going to pick up one of those collars right now before I leave for school. Taking Jasper to doggy daycare is going to cost almost $500 a month, so if this works for him I think it would be worthwhile...plus, then I could still buy groceries! (yay food!)

I think I'll start a separate thread about debarking so as not to hijack yours any further.

Let me know when you make your own thread, & I'll post my results in it & how I did it.

[Freedom]

Yay, the barking has been solved, and relatively easily.

Um, could I have those cookies which were designated for the neighbor? ha ha.

Having just adopted Sugar, I was told by the rescue and the vet, and read on many web sites, that smaller dogs need to be fed twice per day. Larger dogs can go to the once per day feeding. Since Mr. B is small AND older, I would wonder if that would be easier on him. But time will tell. Start with your plan and see what happens! Everything must seem saner now the barking is halted.

My Dad is insane about the animals ALWAYS having access to water. No matter what. He gets panicky if I clean ALL 5 water bowls at the same time. This is not his age; he has always been worried about water for animals. Sigh. We all have our hang ups!

About the fencing. We needed to fence in the backyard, more to keep coyotes OUT than to keep Sugar in. So we wanted something high, but it didn't need to tolerate a digger or a charger. I don't know if Bear will be jumping or charging as she loses weight. We wanted something which didn't disturb the "look" of the house too much. So we opted for the vinyl covered fence with the 2 inch by 3 inch openings. The vinyl covering is green, so you barely notice it. The posts are also green. Wth chain link, I guess folks often put the posts in cement for sturdiness. But those posts are round. These posts are shaped like an unside down U with arms out on each side. AND about one foot up from the bottom they have a piece which grips in the dirt. Look at Home Depot, Lowe's, or another of those DIY places.

It was LOTS cheaper than chain link, and easy to install.

I can take photos but I just started a new roll of film so it will be a while before I can post the photos. We did really well with gates also. We bought one at the Fall clearance, a $46 dollar gate for $20. Then we found a broken chain link fence, found all the parts laying around on the ground. Dad said he could fix it in about 20 minutes (he is real big on DIY and owns EVERY tool, power and otherwise, ever made.) So I talked to them about a discount. It was originally $28, and we got that one for $5!!!!! Found out they had had it for AGES and were planning to just write it off and junk it, ha ha. (Of course, did NOT tell them Dad could fix it up so easily!)

[critter crazy]

Yay, the barking has been solved, and relatively easily.

Um, could I have those cookies which were designated for the neighbor? ha ha.

Having just adopted Sugar, I was told by the rescue and the vet, and read on many web sites, that smaller dogs need to be fed twice per day. Larger dogs can go to the once per day feeding. Since Mr. B is small AND older, I would wonder if that would be easier on him. But time will tell. Start with your plan and see what happens! Everything must seem saner now the barking is halted.

My Dad is insane about the animals ALWAYS having access to water. No matter what. He gets panicky if I clean ALL 5 water bowls at the same time. This is not his age; he has always been worried about water for animals. Sigh. We all have our hang ups!

About the fencing. We needed to fence in the backyard, more to keep coyotes OUT than to keep Sugar in. So we wanted something high, but it didn't need to tolerate a digger or a charger. I don't know if Bear will be jumping or charging as she loses weight. We wanted something which didn't disturb the "look" of the house too much. So we opted for the vinyl covered fence with the 2 inch by 3 inch openings. The vinyl covering is green, so you barely notice it. The posts are also green. Wth chain link, I guess folks often put the posts in cement for sturdiness. But those posts are round. These posts are shaped like this
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-- -- AND about one foot up from the bottom they have a piece which grips in the dirt. Look at Home Depot. Lowe's, or another of those DIY places.

It was LOTS cheaper than chain link, and easy to install.

I can take photos but I just started a new roll of film so it will be a while before I can post the photos. We did really well with gates also. We bought one at the Fall clearance, a $46 dollar gate for $20. Then we found a broken chain link fence, found all the parts laying around on the ground. Dad said he could fix it in about 20 minutes (he is real big on DIY and owns EVERY tool, power and otherwise, ever made.) So I talked to them about a discount. It was originally $28, and we got that one for $5!!!!! Found out they had had it for AGES and were planning to just write it off and junk it, ha ha. (Of course, did NOT tell them Dad could fix it up so easily!)

That is the same type of fencing we have for our dogs! we had it originally for the horses, but figured we could also use it for the dogs. if you think you might have a digger, just make sure that when you go to put the fencing in, you first dig a trench where the fencing will go, so once it is all done, you have the fencing in the ground. Learned tis the hard way with Duke! But other than that, it works fabulous! and the plus side it is low cost, and looks good!

[king2005]

Yay, the barking has been solved, and relatively easily.

Um, could I have those cookies which were designated for the neighbor? ha ha.

Having just adopted Sugar, I was told by the rescue and the vet, and read on many web sites, that smaller dogs need to be fed twice per day. Larger dogs can go to the once per day feeding. Since Mr. B is small AND older, I would wonder if that would be easier on him. But time will tell. Start with your plan and see what happens! Everything must seem saner now the barking is halted.

My Dad is insane about the animals ALWAYS having access to water. No matter what. He gets panicky if I clean ALL 5 water bowls at the same time. This is not his age; he has always been worried about water for animals. Sigh. We all have our hang ups!

About the fencing. We needed to fence in the backyard, more to keep coyotes OUT than to keep Sugar in. So we wanted something high, but it didn't need to tolerate a digger or a charger. I don't know if Bear will be jumping or charging as she loses weight. We wanted something which didn't disturb the "look" of the house too much. So we opted for the vinyl covered fence with the 2 inch by 3 inch openings. The vinyl covering is green, so you barely notice it. The posts are also green. Wth chain link, I guess folks often put the posts in cement for sturdiness. But those posts are round. These posts are shaped like an unside down U with arms out on each side. AND about one foot up from the bottom they have a piece which grips in the dirt. Look at Home Depot, Lowe's, or another of those DIY places.

It was LOTS cheaper than chain link, and easy to install.

I can take photos but I just started a new roll of film so it will be a while before I can post the photos. We did really well with gates also. We bought one at the Fall clearance, a $46 dollar gate for $20. Then we found a broken chain link fence, found all the parts laying around on the ground. Dad said he could fix it in about 20 minutes (he is real big on DIY and owns EVERY tool, power and otherwise, ever made.) So I talked to them about a discount. It was originally $28, and we got that one for $5!!!!! Found out they had had it for AGES and were planning to just write it off and junk it, ha ha. (Of course, did NOT tell them Dad could fix it up so easily!)

we cannot use chainlink in our yard, because its a front yard. The theme is Picket or treated wood.. the guy a few doors down has a 4' high fence for his black GSD & its pretty nice looking.. there are no spaces as his dog isn't very nice.. BUT its well contained & obident.. everytime he barks hes stopped, so the owners are respectful of other, which I approve of.

I cannot see Bear being a jumper or a lets body slam the fence lol.. I can see her as a lets jump up & bark over the fence.. So I want to fence off the 2ed level, so the dogs cannot get to the first level & bark in someones face. I want to use a flat solid picket fence so it still matches everything else & will disscourage any chance of jumping.

But until then, I have a screw & Chain, I can tie one dog up to at a time, so they can sniff the whole yard & not run off on me again *whistles* Ok it was a walk, as Miss Tubby cannot run fast lol

Its mostly the bark bits I'm wondering if its ok, or if there is something better to use instead of mud & dead grass lol

[finn's mom]

I left water for Finn in his crate once he was potty trained. And if you're leaving food in there until Chad gets up, that wouldn't be too bad. Just a few hours in the morning wouldn't be that difficult. I wouldn't leave food in there all day, though, especially if you're trying to housebreak them. I hope you still consider a behaviorist, even though the shock collar has worked. It might help understand a lot of things (especially now that he's bitten you). Hopefully, you can do like someone else mentioned and eventually just put the collar on without actually turning it on. Sounds like they are both happier, though!