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[cali]

ya every dog is denfinantly NOT listed, I looked up Electra's dam, granddam, and brother and not one of them was listed.

[borzoimom]

ya every dog is denfinantly NOT listed, I looked up Electra's dam, granddam, and brother and not one of them was listed.

Yea I dont know why, other than I was told by compliance in the AKC that only producing dogs are kept after the death of the dogs. I always report the deaths. You are actually supposed to.
Thank you cali- and your babies are beautiful!

[borzoimom]

Stalenwalt may not show up, but if you look at the end of the name, it says De Bruge (De Bruges) which was an old kennel in Europe that generally bred malinois and working line groenendael. Either this dog was imported back from De Bruges (which I do believe she mentioned in one of her posts), or it was registered before it's ownership fell through. De Bruges WAS an actual kennel.

Yes she was an import. Thats why she didnt have my kennel name on it. She has the importers name. YOu can, since you have the same breed, also see the quality in her.. I still think it has something to do with her death, and notification as required by the AKC. She never produced puppies, Born 20 years ago, and died a few years back. Also- she wasnt born in the US.
I also agree with danegirl. I left another forum for such stupidity. And as I stated to Karen, I would love to present documentation to proof and show how petty these responses got- but I dont know who they are.. Not willing to give out my address as it would be on papers either. As hostile as this post turned, How do I know this poster is not a stalker or something..
Thank you all for you wonderful words on her. I wish I had an adult picture on "Clipper" but I dont have all my photos anymore as they they lost and destroyed by my ex.

[borzoimom]

Mikki, you sound like a very lonely person. Do you not have anything better to do than to waste your days, doubting humanity? Do us all a favour, most importantly yourself, and join some sort of social activity in your community so you have a chance to develop proper social skills and appropriate manners.

borzoimom, both dogs are absolutely STUNNING!

Thank you.. I loved both of them dearly.

[Mikki]

ya every dog is denfinantly NOT listed, I looked up Electra's dam, granddam, and brother and not one of them was listed.

That's the very reason I asked these questions, which some posters chose to take the wrong way!!!

Georgous dogs. Were they AKC champions or shown under another registry? Their names aren't showing up on the AKC registration lookup. Maybe it's just the spelling because the collie didn't show up either.

Every dog, dead or alive, bred or not, titled or not that has been registered with AKC (at least since the 70's is listed on the AKC dog lookup.

But the spelling, spacing and punctuation must be exact for it to show up!

In addition, the dog could have been registered and shown under a different registry than AKC so naturally it wouldn't be there.

Rather than attack the messenger, why not check out the facts for yourself.

[cali]

and Electra dam is AKC registers, her granddam is an AKC champion, and her brother is AKC registered, and Electras are getting processed. and they are NOT listed with EXACT spelling.

[zoomer]

What an adorable two!

[borzoimom]

and Electra dam is AKC registers, her granddam is an AKC champion, and her brother is AKC registered, and Electras are getting processed. and they are NOT listed with EXACT spelling.

No I understand as well. I mean I had some of the top shepherds in the country and its like they dropped off into the abysis.. lol..

[borzoimom]

What an adorable two!

Thank you.. They are seriously missed.. One of these days I am going to post in memorial, but my heart just wont do it. I still consider them here.. Stupid- but true..

[zoomer]

How long did you have them and how long ago did they cross the rainbow bridge? I'm sorry about your losses

[borzoimom]

How long did you have them and how long ago did they cross the rainbow bridge? I'm sorry about your losses

I got chance at a year old, and clipper at 4 months. Chance lived to be 14 and half. She had arthritis, and one day she said " I have to go mom.." and clipper was 13 and a littler over. She slipped on the stairs, broke her thigh, but it was like she wanted to leave. She didnt even try. She survived the surgery, but fell apart the days afterwards.. ( cry.. cry..).. I think she missed Chance- but its hard to say. Both ages are very good in this breed- but for some reason, she gave up, and died in my arms... ( cryyyyyyyyy... tissues.. pardon me..)

[Mikki]

and Electra dam is AKC registers, her granddam is an AKC champion, and her brother is AKC registered, and Electras are getting processed. and they are NOT listed with EXACT spelling.

You can also look them up by registration number. If they're registered they are there. Registered dogs, even pets, don't just mysteriously drop off the list for any reason. The only reason a dog might not be found with the registration number is if the owner and all their dogs have been suspended from AKC.

AKC keeps those records in order to provide pedigrees and other information that is constantly requested from them. They are available to anyone with a computer or even by mail and telephone.

[TFTpwnsYou]

To be on the lighter side of things. Mikki since you're new why don't you tell us about yourself? You're interested in showing and such, do you have any dogs you're planning on starting? I looked at your profile, but you don't have anything listed yet. You can go to the "general" part at the bottom of the main page since a lot of people read that I guess. That's where I was told to go to introduce myself. Come join in the fun and tell us about your pets!

[Husky15]

They're beautiful dogs, borzoimom, may they rest in peace.

Mikki, must you hound everyone with your questions? Frankly, I don't think it's any of your business.

To be on the lighter side of things. Mikki since you're new why don't you tell us about yourself? You're interested in showing and such, do you have any dogs you're planning on starting? I looked at your profile, but you don't have anything listed yet. You can go to the "general" part at the bottom of the main page since a lot of people read that I guess. That's where I was told to go to introduce myself. Come join in the fun and tell us about your pets!

Yes, tell us about yourself Mikki. You're so interested in other people so why can't you share about yourself and the animals you own?

[wolfsoul]

I don't believe that every dog is listed on there -- if you check, there is an alternate way of searching for the dogs. You click on the breed and type in the kennel name or part of the dog's name -- any dog with that kennel name or part of the name will show up. I put in Attra and Visa's mother and sister showed up.

However, there are some kennel names I have tried (including the #1 kennel in North Americna, like I had stated) and nothing showed up. Some of them did show up, but only a few -- which doesn't make sense since alot of these breeders had several litters, and all would have been registered with AKC (and most breeders WILL register the individual dogs themselves).

I believe that borzoimom was correct in that they only retain records for five years. After all, why would only the litters in the last five years produced by some kennels show up?