Ok, I can be there for the 4th if that's when is good. We'll probably be in Kays areas around the 3rd or 4th till the 5th. My mom wants to visit her sick uncle too and I thought we might as well go there first then if the meeting is best on the 4th. Maybe I can see about meeting up with Kay before that if she wants. I duno about new years now thoug cause we won't be in that area if you need a lift?
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