PETA erks me off!

[Twisterdog]

PETA started out as a decent, mainstream (well, fairly mainstream anyway) organization. However, times have changed and the new management of PETA is WAY out there.

Ingrid Newkirk is a very strange, dangerous and morally bankrupt person. Yes, PETA is opposed to the use of SAR dogs. PETA supporters are the great ball-of-fire winners who release tropical monkeys from scientific labs into the streets of cities in the winter, and break into hotel rooms and campers, steal show dogs and release them into traffic in New York City.

They oppose the ownership of pets, period. They feel that riding a horse is just as "horrible" as putting chemicals into a rabbits eyes for an experiment. I will look and find a quote by Newkirk that just sums it all up .... in effect, she says that she doesn't care if it takes just one lab rats life to find a cure for cancer, or one lab mouse to save your father's life - that it would not be worth it. Ummm .... hello.

They also spend a vast amount of their money supporting, basically, domestic terrorism. They fund eco-terrorists and animal rights terrorists, such as ALF, who use tactics such as fire-bombing stores that sell fur, etc. PETA spends a lot of money on the legal defense of those charged with domestic terrorism as well. Sorry, I don't want my money going to buy gasoline to make fire-bombs to throw through glass windows, or to pay a lawyer to defend these charmers, no matter what the cause.

Okay first I am all for animal rights. Ask anyone I know and they will tell you I am in love with absolutly every animal and respect them.

Keep in mind, animals RIGHTS in not at all the same thing as animal WELFARE. Loving and respecting animals is animals welfare. Believing that animals should have the same rights as human beings ... the right never to be leashed, owned, ridden or eaten ... that is animal rights. I'm a firm believer in animal welfare. I think even if you are eventually going to eat that chicken, you should make sure it is comfortable and happy before it is eaten. But I don't believe in animal rights ... I don't necesarily think the chicken has the same rights that you or I do. We are omnivores by nature, we eat meat. If one choses not to eat meat, good for them. I think that's fine. My brother was a vegetarian for decades, and I was proud of him. However, if one choses to eat meat, I think that is fine as well. Humans are not, by nature, vegetarians.

[Denyce]

Yiiiipppppeeee....Hooooraaaayyyyy....someone who was able to put it all in a very concise nutshell! Love what you said and support it all the way.

Thank you

Denyce

[CathyBogart]

I lump PETA in with the Humane Society as "places that want to ban the captive keeping of reptiles". Neither organization will ever get any money/support from me again.

[allanimalswelcome]

I think animals have rights but I'm not crazy like PETA. Leashes and such are benificial to an animal just as a cane or a wheelchair is benificial to a person. A wheelchair helps someone get around without killing themselves. It applies to leashes.

I am appauled by PETA's behavior. They are obviously nuts. They have no respect for anyone with different opinoinsm, such as show dogs.

Frankly I am also VERY surprised. That girl in my class is in for a harsh awakening. She planned to show her dog...

I sincerly hope in the next years or so PETA will fail so that the rest of the REAL organizations can operate in peace.

~Rachel

[allanimalswelcome]

I new slogan for PETA

"People Exhibiting a Terrble threat to Animals"

So I used more letters then P.E.T.A. you get the picture.

~Rache

[mugsy]

I still think People Eating Tasty Animals is good! lol

I like yours too though.

[allanimalswelcome]

Yea maybe I should send the name suggestions to PETA?

~Rachel

[smokey the elder]

PETA has lost credibility. Any organization that goes fanatic is not existing in the real world. Existing in the real world is about compromise. It is completely appropriate (in my opinion, of course!) to protest against "inhumane" practices. But the rub is, "inhumane" is a moving target.

FWIW: Here are my opinions on specific issues.

1. Being omnivorous (I am): I like meat and make no apologies for this. I attempt to purchase it from properly raised animals. It's better for the animal and for the person who ultimately eats it.

2. Furs: I think we would be better off with the very high quality synthetics, but fur that doesn't come from endangered species is less objectionable.

3. Animal testing (medical): This is THE LAW! The FDA, ever since 1938, has required safety testing of all drugs which are intended to be used for humans and animals to be toxicalogically tested.

(BTW, there are VERY strict rules, at least where I work, about the care of lab animals. For example, the protocol for dogs and primates is that they must "have a mentally stimulating environment.")

4. Animal testing (cosmetic): should be VERBOTEN! I think humans should use these things at their own risk.

JMHO...

Smokey

[lizbud]

smokey the elder,

Well you have one out of the 4 right.

[allanimalswelcome]

Thank you!

I agree with everything you said. PETA is whacked and it is loosing support.

I eat organic meat which is better then eating factory farmed. The animals are healthier therefor the meat is healtheir.

I do not particualry like fur but many people do not where it anymore so that's something.

~Rachel

[RubyMutt]

Originally posted by smokey the elder
FWIW: Here are my opinions on specific issues.

1. Being omnivorous (I am): I like meat and make no apologies for this. I attempt to purchase it from properly raised animals. It's better for the animal and for the person who ultimately eats it.

2. Furs: I think we would be better off with the very high quality synthetics, but fur that doesn't come from endangered species is less objectionable.

3. Animal testing (medical): This is THE LAW! The FDA, ever since 1938, has required safety testing of all drugs which are intended to be used for humans and animals to be toxicalogically tested.

(BTW, there are VERY strict rules, at least where I work, about the care of lab animals. For example, the protocol for dogs and primates is that they must "have a mentally stimulating environment.")

4. Animal testing (cosmetic): should be VERBOTEN! I think humans should use these things at their own risk.

JMHO...

Smokey

My thoughts EXACTLY!

[Airedalekisses]

I said my piece on the serial cat killer thread about PETA! They were in my will-not anymore-I'm of sound mind and body and they ain't gettin'any of my money!!

[Sevens]

And some people wondered why I liked moving away from the Norfolk, VA area... PETA just ruins everything. They bother people at concerts, they are rude, and they are too over the top.

This is just a situation that happened to a friend of mine. It was during the PETA campaign against McDonald's treatment of cows or something. My friend was driving to McDonald's with her 4 year old daughter. The kid was sleeping. They pulled up to the McDonalds and some people were doing a protest. This crazy guy dressed as a butcher weilding a huge fake machete (sword looking blade), covered in blood, ran up swinging the thing next to her car and scared the heck out of her daughter. When my friend tried to say that they shouldn't have done that, what did they do? Did they say "Sorry, didn't mean to frighten your kid"? No, they called her a "conservative meat eating b**ch" in front of her child.

I miss my family who still live in the Norfolk area, but I most certainly do not miss PETA. I love where I live now, the area is very pet friendly.

[captain]

I can tell you where that fake machete would end up if they came at my car like that ................

- well, I CAN'T TELL you, but I am sure you get the picture.

[allanimalswelcome]

This is just a situation that happened to a friend of mine. It was during the PETA campaign against McDonald's treatment of cows or something. My friend was driving to McDonald's with her 4 year old daughter. The kid was sleeping. They pulled up to the McDonalds and some people were doing a protest. This crazy guy dressed as a butcher weilding a huge fake machete (sword looking blade), covered in blood, ran up swinging the thing next to her car and scared the heck out of her daughter. When my friend tried to say that they shouldn't have done that, what did they do? Did they say "Sorry, didn't mean to frighten your kid"? No, they called her a "conservative meat eating b**ch" in front of her child.

God I hate PETA. So sad less and less people are taking them seriously...NOT

~Rachel