to wolfsoul

[wolfsoul]

If you care to post the names of your champions past and present, I'll be more than happy to check them out too. Otherwise I'll simply determine your credibility by what you have to say over a period of time.

My dogs aren't AKC registered as of yet, only CKC registered... The ones from my kennel name that ARE AKC registered, I didn't breed -- my co-breeder did.

[Giselle]

I just think the way you went about asking about it was not a good approach. Calling fraud on someone and then asking for a name would not get a good result for one. Maybe if you would have said that "I looked up the dogs name, but was unable to find anything. Did I maybe get the name wrong? Would you be willing to give me the correct name so I could?" you would have gotten a better result.

Georgous dogs. Were they AKC champions or shown under another registry? Their names aren't showing up on the AKC registration lookup. Maybe it's just the spelling because the collie didn't show up either.

-Mikki

"Stalenwald/t Belgian"
http://www.google.com/search?client=...=Google+Search
http://www.google.com/search?hs=u7e&...an&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hs=goz&...el&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hs=toz&...el&btnG=Search

Just stating the facts.

[Tollers-n-Dobes]

A google search can prove much, in my opinion. A friend of mine has a friend who used to breed Flat Coats, and her kennel name doesn't come up at all on a search. I don't know about the rest of PT, but I'm truly sick of people trying to prove others wrong constantly and just being ignorant about it. Perhaps there really is no breeder by the name of Stalinwalt, but you never truly know for sure. There isn't any need to jump to conclusions constantly and accuse someone of something just because one or two people think something is wrong.

Anyway, Borzoimom, your Belgians were beautiful. Thanks for sharing the pictures.

[Danegirl2208]

A google search can prove much, in my opinion. A friend of mine has a friend who used to breed Flat Coats, and her kennel name doesn't come up at all on a search. I don't know about the rest of PT, but I'm truly sick of people trying to prove others wrong constantly and just being ignorant about it. Perhaps there really is no breeder by the name of Stalinwalt, but you never truly know for sure. There isn't any need to jump to conclusions constantly and accuse someone of something just because one or two people think something is wrong.

Anyway, Borzoimom, your Belgians were beautiful. Thanks for sharing the pictures.

i agree with you 100%...i left another forum that i was active on for over year because of things like this..its ridiculous..

they were gorgeous Borzoimom!

[wolfsoul]

Stalenwalt may not show up, but if you look at the end of the name, it says De Bruge (De Bruges) which was an old kennel in Europe that generally bred malinois and working line groenendael. Either this dog was imported back from De Bruges (which I do believe she mentioned in one of her posts), or it was registered before it's ownership fell through. De Bruges WAS an actual kennel.

[TFTpwnsYou]

Yes it is. That is why she came here and advised me to do so as well because the people were a lot nicer here.

[Mikki]

Can you possibly explain how this comment could be inerpreted as accusing or "calling fraud on someone"

Georgous dogs. Were they AKC champions or shown under another registry? Their names aren't showing up on the AKC registration lookup. Maybe it's just the spelling because the collie didn't show up either.

It's strikes me as being whole lot more considerate than accusing a newcomer of following them from another forum or "being on drugs".

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Well, I don't know if it lists that far back but you are correct on if the dog is registered you can find it. I tested it, and my Papillon came up. You might have had the name wrong, and that is why they did not come up.

I just think the way you went about asking about it was not a good approach. Calling fraud on someone and then asking for a name would not get a good result for one. Maybe if you would have said that "I looked up the dogs name, but was unable to find anything. Did I maybe get the name wrong? Would you be willing to give me the correct name so I could?" you would have gotten a better result.

No offense, but you are new to the forum(as am I), and I'm sure you would not want someone coming into your house (using as example), and saying bad things when this was their 1st time in your home. Maybe from now on try a nicer appraoch to things you want to question, and you just may get an answer.

[Giselle]

Stalenwalt may not show up, but if you look at the end of the name, it says De Bruge (De Bruges) which was an old kennel in Europe that generally bred malinois and working line groenendael. Either this dog was imported back from De Bruges (which I do believe she mentioned in one of her posts), or it was registered before it's ownership fell through. De Bruges WAS an actual kennel.

Thank you for the explanation. That's all I was looking for. After seeing so many frauds, it's instinct to be a little tentative.

[wolfsoul]

Btw -- I used the search dogs option on the AKC website. Not every kennel shows up. Johnsondale was the TOP kennel in North America for the longest time -- they had the #1 groenendael stud in North America, his sister was the #1 Belgian EVERYTHING, the first to do this and that and so on -- yet not a single one of their dogs comes up.

[Mikki]

wolfsoul would you please clarify what "or it was registered before it's ownership fell through" means? That's a dogspeak I'm not familiar with.

[Danegirl2208]

wolfsoul would you please clarify what "or it was registered before it's ownership fell through" means? That's a dogspeak I'm not familiar with.

just a question here Mikki..why do you find it necessary to keep pounding these people with questions? its ridiculous really

[wolfsoul]

Sorry I just meant that it's full name was registered, but then the owner decided not to get the pup or something -- which is one reason that would explain the name ending in another kennel name. For instance, if I decided to get a dog from another kennel, I would have them register the dog's name as what they want, and have them end it in "of Attra Dea," "O'AttraDea," etc etc -- and then I may decide not to keep the puppy. If they don't change it within 60 days of registration than it would remain as is. Which is just one reason a dog under her kennel name, Beckonridge, may end in another kennel name, Bruges. Hope I explained that ok lol. I see it happen all the time -- other kennels often have dogs whose names end in other kennel names -- just because that pup was meant to go to another kennel but they backed out.

[Mikki]

just a question here Mikki..why do you find it necessary to keep pounding these people with questions? its ridiculous really

How is anyone supposed to learn anything if they don't ask questions?

[Mikki]

Sorry I just meant that it's full name was registered, but then the owner decided not to get the pup or something -- which is one reason that would explain the name ending in another kennel name. For instance, if I decided to get a dog from another kennel, I would have them register the dog's name as what they want, and have them end it in "of Attra Dea," "O'AttraDea," etc etc -- and then I may decide not to keep the puppy. If they don't change it within 60 days of registration than it would remain as is. Which is just one reason a dog under her kennel name, Beckonridge, may end in another kennel name, Bruges. Hope I explained that ok lol. I see it happen all the time -- other kennels often have dogs whose names end in other kennel names -- just because that pup was meant to go to another kennel but they backed out.

Thank you!

[BC_MoM]

Mikki, you sound like a very lonely person. Do you not have anything better to do than to waste your days, doubting humanity? Do us all a favour, most importantly yourself, and join some sort of social activity in your community so you have a chance to develop proper social skills and appropriate manners.

borzoimom, both dogs are absolutely STUNNING!