Is A breeder allowed to...

[finn's mom]

Would the breeder be able to have the tests done in the week that Buddy will be with her? Man, I just wouldn't trust her to not breed him while he was with her. And, having that stipulation in the contract doesn't make her a bad breeder. But, if she doesn't have the correct testing done, that definitely does.

[DogLover9501]

I've never heard of an agreement like that..I wouldn't leave my dogs there.

[luvofallhorses]

Originally posted by DogLover9501
I've never heard of an agreement like that..I wouldn't leave my dogs there.

ditto

[finn's mom]

Originally posted by DogLover9501
I've never heard of an agreement like that..I wouldn't leave my dogs there.

I know a few people that have breeders that do that. It's their perogative, for sure, what happens to their dogs. and, someone mentioned it already....a lot of breeders look at people that take their dogs as only partial owners. It's an interesting business. But, if it turns out that's what's in the contract, it could be a very disappointing thing for Buddy and the family.

[LuvGold00]

Originally posted by finn's mom
Would the breeder be able to have the tests done in the week that Buddy will be with her?

Sometimes it can take MONTHS to get results back, the breeder sounds kinda fishy to me.... In the Golden world, good breeders don't breed without full health clearances.

[finn's mom]

Originally posted by SunKissedGoldens
Sometimes it can take MONTHS to get results back, the breeder sounds kinda fishy to me.... In the Golden world, good breeders don't breed without full health clearances.

Yeah, I thought it might take longer than a week. I would be so nervous to leave Buddy there. It sounds like she'd breed him even if they asked her not to, I hope we're wrong about the breeder, though. For Buddy's sake.

[GoldenRetrieverLover_01]

Oh my goodnes!! You guys are worrying way more than me...and worrying me more! Honestly our breeder is good....she has been breeding for over 20 years and her dogs are all healthy. She's very nice too...I think she'll respect our wishes not to breed Buddy. Please lets just change the topic..... Should I get Buddy a toy before we leave tomorrow so he's not lonely and sad?

[Pawsitive Thinking]

Yeah! Get him a toy before you go and another when you get back! Have a great time xx

[finn's mom]

I would get a new toy and also leave with him his favorite old toy. I think something like a comfy sweatshirt or a blanket or something with your scent on it, too, would be nice. Something you don't mind giving to your dog, as it may not be fit for human use afterwards.

[Pit Chick]

Originally posted by GoldenRetrieverLover_01
Oh my goodnes!! You guys are worrying way more than me...and worrying me more! Honestly our breeder is good....she has been breeding for over 20 years and her dogs are all healthy. She's very nice too...I think she'll respect our wishes not to breed Buddy. Please lets just change the topic..... Should I get Buddy a toy before we leave tomorrow so he's not lonely and sad?

Just because she's been doing it for that long doesn't mean she's been doing it the right way. Most dogs look healthy on the outside, but it's the parts you can't see that can have the biggest problems (ie hips, heart, eyes, thyroid, etc). She may be a nice person too, but that still doesn't make her a reputable breeder. You started this thread because you obviously don't trust her, now you seem pretty confident that she won't breed him? You wanted advise and I'm sorry if it is making you worry more, but in reality, you do need to worry because she could potentially use your dog to bring more unwanted dogs with no health or temperament screenings, no working or show titles, into this world when there are enough.

Since you think that breeding for many years and being nice equals a good breeder, let me tell you about a man that has been breeding Pit Bulls for over 50 years. His name is Floyd Boudreaux and he has lots of friends, family, clients, and followers that would vouch for his "good" character and his excellent breeding practices and for keeping the Pit Bull in it's truest form for so long. He was arrested in May, his property raided, his dogs confiscated and euthanized. Why you ask? Because he was breeding, selling, AND fighting them. These dogs also all lived on the end of heavy chains 24/7, BUT they were all healthy. So, before you feel completely confident that you can trust this breeder, I would give it some more thought and reconsider. Even a Golden breeder is telling you this breeder sounds fishy. So if you don't listen to the rest of us, listen to her.

BTW, did you find that contract?

[lv4dogs]

Originally posted by Pit Chick
Just because she's been doing it for that long doesn't mean she's been doing it the right way. Most dogs look healthy on the outside, but it's the parts you can't see that can have the biggest problems (ie hips, heart, eyes, thyroid, etc). She may be a nice person too, but that still doesn't make her a reputable breeder. You started this thread because you obviously don't trust her, now you seem pretty confident that she won't breed him? You wanted advise and I'm sorry if it is making you worry more, but in reality, you do need to worry because she could potentially use your dog to bring more unwanted dogs with no health or temperament screenings, no working or show titles, into this world when there are enough.

Since you think that breeding for many years and being nice equals a good breeder, let me tell you about a man that has been breeding Pit Bulls for over 50 years. His name is Floyd Boudreaux and he has lots of friends, family, clients, and followers that would vouch for his "good" character and his excellent breeding practices and for keeping the Pit Bull in it's truest form for so long. He was arrested in May, his property raided, his dogs confiscated and euthanized. Why you ask? Because he was breeding, selling, AND fighting them. These dogs also all lived on the end of heavy chains 24/7, BUT they were all healthy. So, before you feel completely confident that you can trust this breeder, I would give it some more thought and reconsider. Even a Golden breeder is telling you this breeder sounds fishy. So if you don't listen to the rest of us, listen to her.

BTW, did you find that contract?

Very well said.

[LuvGold00]

Originally posted by GoldenRetrieverLover_01
Oh my goodnes!! You guys are worrying way more than me...and worrying me more! Honestly our breeder is good....she has been breeding for over 20 years and her dogs are all healthy. She's very nice too...I think she'll respect our wishes not to breed Buddy. Please lets just change the topic..... Should I get Buddy a toy before we leave tomorrow so he's not lonely and sad?

I'm sorry if I have caused you to worry more, but I'm worried too. This is my breed, and I hope and pray she doesn't breed ANY dogs without health clearances. There are millions of Golden Retrievers out there, in all honesty we don't need anymore pet puppies... Dogs should be bred for a purpose.

Kisses to Buddy, I'm sure a new toy and some big hugs will help him get through the week.

[Dixieland Dancer]

Originally posted by GoldenRetrieverLover_01
Ya, like she's dog sitting him- that's boarding right? How is that fair that she is allowed to breed him? It's our dog isn't it?

It is your dog but you signed a contract. Make sure of the wording as it will tell you what your rights really are. Without seeing it, we are all just guessing. Usually a breeder will only sell potential show quality pups on a full registration (breedable stock). If the dog is not being shown then most reputable breeders sell the dogs on limited contracts (offspring can not be registered with the AKC) and require the dogs to be spayed or neutered.

Since I don't think your dog is shown in conformation, I am surprised at her wanting to breed him. Especially with no health clearances or hip analysis. Personally, it sounds like she is a backyard breeder who is only in it for the money. I would find a different place to board the dog.

[Pawsitive Thinking]

What's happening with our Buddy?

[finn's mom]

It's just a guess, but, she said she didn't want to talk about this anymore, so, maybe that's why there's not any more on the subject? I don't know......that's just the impression I got.