Can this really be true?

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by lizbud

I'm not a coder, nor do I play one on TV, but,

The high cost of insurance cannot be layed at the feet of Tort
Law. How about the tremendous amount of money spent for ads
by drug companies in all media for certain brands of drugs. Drugs that should be pitched to the Drs. and not the masses.

A marketing budget is small potatoes compared to the research, development, testing and finally greasing all the palms to get a medicine/treatment approved by the government/FDA.

Paying a Nascar driver a few million a year to drive in circles with VIAGRA painted on the hood is only worth a few million a year.
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What was the...phen phen????

Look at what that fiasco cost the company that produced the drug......Money for lawyers to protect the company and to settle the claims from all the people who were 'injured'.

I knew a gal who took that stuff and when she heard about the lawsuit she wondered if she qualified for some money from the settlements.....

You also have to take into consideration that a person will come into a Drs office and tell the doctor what they need.

Kinda like the the silicone implant problems that have plagued that industry....Women wanted them and a few years later....

There were long term problems that took the silicone implants off the market for a while, only to be replaced by saline fillled implants.

Take a gander at the settlements in the class action lawsuits that were were settled by Dow Corning......

In some cases the pain and suffering amounts rewarded were hundreds of thousands of dollars.......only to be whittled away by the 'system' (read: lawyers) to paltry "thousand" dollar awards.
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I'm not a coder, nor do I play one on TV, but,
I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.

[RICHARD]

lol,


Not at the thread, but at my own stupidity.


I just realized that this woman just didn't go into the hospital and leave.

Most likely she did have a surgical procedure called a dilitation and curettage- it involves a surgeon, anesthesiologist and all the supporting cast.

Miscarriages have different levels and there was probably a problem with her hemorrhaging, so they had to take her into the operating room to take care of her.

A D&C takes about 10 minutes of actual operating time and about 45 minutes of room time. Patients are sent home the same day as opposed to a few years ago, they were kept overnight....

[Edwina's Secretary]

Thank you Richard...now we can go back to disagreeing....

How many times did I hear during the Superbowl about a pill that might give you a four hour erection? That is a couple million for every 30 seconds. But you are right...the power of advertising is what gets people in to the doctor's office asking for the little purple pill or BB King's blood tester. Prescription drugs represent the largest part of the rise in medical costs....

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by Edwina's Secretary
How many times did I hear during the Superbowl about a pill that might give you a four hour erection?

Seeing that a football game is three hours long......I guess that covers the half time entertainment....

Virility can be confused with stupidity...


In the typical scenario...


After having a moment with your lady, and in typical male fashion, you roll over to fall asleep and hurt yourself because you are only 15 minutes into your four hour adventure...



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ES,

Medical supplies, tools and implant devices (screws, plates for broken bones, pacemakers, mesh, vein grafts..) make up a huge chunk of hospital costs...

[Lady's Human]

The United States is not going to buy the Canadian Medicare program, the US is just considering buying drugs from Canadian sources or allowing people to do so.

Nationalized health care would not merely raise taxes, it would break the budget. I prefer to make my own choices in such matters, let's leave big brother (Or the mommy state) out of my health care.

[caseysmom]

Well I think the government should step in and changes should be made instead of getting involved and passing legislation for one woman there are many people going without basic healthcare.

[gini]

Richard, I feel certain that this is the best explanation of her condition. When she arrived at the emergency room at the hospital, they told her that they didn't have any beds. She said she was in the emergency waiting room for a long time. They gave her a blanket which she ruined - and then they gave her another blanket.............

I believe that the only bed she might have seen was the one in the operating room and/or recovery room

Originally posted by RICHARD


I just realized that this woman just didn't go into the hospital and leave.

Most likely she did have a surgical procedure called a dilitation and curettage- it involves a surgeon, anesthesiologist and all the supporting cast.

Miscarriages have different levels and there was probably a problem with her hemorrhaging, so they had to take her into the operating room to take care of her.

A D&C takes about 10 minutes of actual operating time and about 45 minutes of room time. Patients are sent home the same day as opposed to a few years ago, they were kept overnight....

[Edwina's Secretary]

Medical supplies, tools and implant devices (screws, plates for broken bones, pacemakers, mesh, vein grafts..) make up a huge chunk of hospital costs...

But what percent of total medical expenses are in hospital?

[tortuga55]

One of the many reasons I am glad I live in Canada. When I travel I will also get death insurance to cover the cost of having my body shiped back to my parents. My mom had two back sergeries and we paid little if nothing for them, and when I was born I was premature and there was lots of complications, we almost died. In the states the bill would have been huge. My dad pays about $100 a month for health care for the entire family, and most of the time he does not even have to pay that. There might be huge waiting lists in Canada but not huge bills. If you really need the surgerie or to see a specialist, like when my grandfather was diagnosed with lung cancer they are very fast, next day. There might be long waites but I am not afraid to go to the hospital if I think somethings wrong.

[lizbud]

Originally posted by Lady's Human


Nationalized health care would not merely raise taxes, it would break the budget.

No fear of that fella, Bush has already smashed a surplus to
a vague memory by tax cuts for the very rich and a misbegotten
war in a country that did us no harm.

[caseysmom]

Well my employer pays for my medical coverage thank goodnes, they pay $700 a month...I am sure lots of folks are not so fortunate. I think I pay an addition $100 a month or something close to that.

[tortuga55]

$100 canadian seems like the better deal. In my opinion. I think its mean of Bush to not allow americans to buy drugs from canada, but allow them to buy drugs from mexico. Most of our drugs come from the states or at least the some companies american pharmacies get their drugs from. Whats the dif. if its cheaper why not?

[Edwina's Secretary]

[IMG]Whats the dif. if its cheaper why not[/IMG]

His friends in the drug industry won't get to make as much profit?

[RICHARD]

Ah, ah ah!!!


Start blaming the senators and congressman who take money from the special interest groups................


Those are the morons who deserve the blame......


It's the mechanics you blame when the bus breaks down....

The driver only gets as far as THEY'LL let him go.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Sorry to again disagree.....

If the driver abuses the bus....it breaks down....