White chicks...Black chicks???

[Kfamr]

WOW. I agree with what the majority has said.


White people don't have it bad?
Hmm, lets see. I'm not able to listen to rap music, wear certain clothing, talk a certain way without being looked down on by black folks, or seen as a "wigger". I'm not allowed to walk through a certain part of school, because I don't wear FuBu, I don't have clean shoes, and my skin color is pale.

People are so stuck of leaving what's in the past, in the past, yet this slavery thing happened YEARS ago and it's still used as an excuse. I've seen more anti-White Blacks than I have anti-Black Whites.

I cannot change what my ancestors did, nor can I change how blacks, Jewish, and other cultures, religions, ect were treated in the past. I had nothing to do with it, nor did many of the blacks today, so why must we use it against eachother today, or use it as an excuse today?

I for one am so freaking SICK of how I am treated because of my ancestors. I did absolutely nothing to deserve to be frowned upon by Blacks, or any other races, and I do not plan on doing so. A white racial joke is oh so amusing to people, but if it was flipped it'd be racist. That's not right, and what happened before our time can not justify any of it.

Now, I'm not racist whatsoever. Sometimes I wish there were no such thing has skin colors. Too bad we aren't all grey, but then again -- some people would have a problem with what shade he or she is.

[G.P.girl]

I'm not allowed to walk through a certain part of school, because I don't wear FuBu, I don't have clean shoes

i doubt that has to do with the fact that you're white.

I for one am so freaking SICK of how I am treated because of my ancestors. I did absolutely nothing to deserve to be frowned upon by Blacks, or any other races

yeah....those blacks...what did they to deserve slavery? or any of the other races. they're all frowned upon for something by some other race. you're no different just becasue you're white.

I've seen more anti-White Blacks than I have anti-Black Whites.

hahahaha! ever been to georgia?

[Kfamr]

Originally posted by G.P.girl
i doubt that has to do with the fact that you're white.


yeah....those blacks...what did they to deserve slavery? or any of the other races. they're all frowned upon for something by some other race. you're no different just becasue you're white.


hahahaha! ever been to georgia?

Oh, okay -- I was only told one for wearing a fuBu sweatshirt by a Black kid, "You make us look bad"...


I'm part Native American. What did my ancestors deserve to be run out of their homes by the Spainards? I don't frown upon Spanish people because of this. I'm also part German. I do not hate Jewish people because of this.
How it was back in the days is back in the days and should not be used as an excuse for ANYONE of ANY race today.

I did not say I was different because I am white. People are not different. We are all human.. we all bleed red.
Yes, i've been to Georgia plenty of times.

[catnapper]

Miss Meow, I know it doesn't make sense. I'm trying to come to terms with it myself. I'm "working the system" because it seems that what you need to do to get ahead anymore and it stinks. If everyone else is shoving their foot in the door and knocking my kids down, I need everything in the world I can to give them the chance to get back up. I'm like a big mama bear who's riled up and ready to fight anyone to protect her cubs!

I hate that I am contradicting myself here. I know it and hate it. I am doing whatever it take to give him an edge. I wish that he'd actually work for what he has. He won't, and someday that'll come and bite him in the tooshy. Let it hit him later, right now, my main concern is getting him to college and doing whatever I can to make sure he has equal fighting power to get his name attached to whatever scholarships a school can offer.

But that's eactly what I mean... why should my son have an added advantage over the other kids? I really don't think he should. I honestly feel that if he didn't know schools were so eager to give him a scholarship that he'd be working hard. He so badly wants to become a history teacher (ironic, isn't it?) Funny thing is that he's genius level smart and blows everyone away with his knowledge... and he wants to pass his knowledge onto kids. He knows he needs college to attain this dream. If he didn't know about the accomadations schools make for kids like him, he'd be busting his rump to get the grades to proove himself and get into college on his own merit. Since he doesn't have to, he figures he won't. And if you think I'm going to be stupid enough not to take advantage of it... well, I'm not going to be stupid.

GP Girl, I'm so sorry that people react that way. My neighbors are a mixed couple with three of the most gorgeous kids I've ever met. I never ever onced stopped to think less of them or the kids. But I do know that people have. I've talked to my neighbor about the problems they've encountered, and all I can say is that intolerance is an evil thing. In fact, we've had many many long talks about this very subject. She sees it from her perspective, and then she sees it with how people respond to her gay brother. Same story, just a different group of people. All I can say is that you are lucky to have a good home life where your mother is strong and is teaching you to be a strong woman too. A good home life is supposed to diffuse the anger of the world and foster a sense of belonging and love. Too many people don't have that - regardless of color.

Kay, my kids wear FuBu... the socks were really cheap at JCPenny. They are comfy and the kids love them.

GP Girl (again... sorry, just hit preview and saw this) do you know how many blacks sold blacks into slavery? My husband is taking a course right now about Lincoln and it very interesting about slavery.. I can send you the book when he's done with it. Seriously, I'm being honest here... not at all condemning. He's been talking about this book all week and about how much its opened his eyes.

[G.P.girl]

Originally posted by Kfamr
I'm also part German. I do not hate Jewish people because of this.
How it was back in the days is back in the days and should not be used as an excuse for ANYONE of ANY race today.

why would you hate jewish people? if anything, they would hate the germans.
obviously i don't support racism and it would be much better if there wasn't any at all. but the fact is, there is. and there always will be. even if it's not as wide spread, there's always going to be a few ass holes who hate someone else because of thier skin color or religion. but just because a few races are more discriminated against than white people doesn't mean they have to go saying every single joke they make about white people is racist

catnapper, no i actually didn't know about blacks selling black slaves. (well i didn't know much about it) i'll have to look it up.

[Kfamr]

Originally posted by G.P.girl
why would you hate jewish people? if anything, they would hate the germans.

Because my ancestors did. Blacks hated whites back in the days, and vice versa.



but just because a few races are more discriminated against than white people doesn't mean they have to go saying every single joke they make about white people is racist

What? That really does not make sense.
Every "joke" about blacks is considered racist, so why shouldn't it be the same with white "jokes"?

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[G.P.girl]

Originally posted by Kfamr
Blacks hated whites back in the days, and vice versa.

blacks didn't hate whites for no reason though. they didn't make the whites be their slaves. they most likely didnt like white people because they dragged them away from their homes, put them on slave ships where they could live in thier own crap and food like animals for a few weeks, then made them be their slaves and whipped them when they weren't working hard enough, and then lynched them when they finally did manage to get some rights. if whites didn't want blacks here, why did they bring them here?

[Kfamr]

I did not bring them here and I have no problem with them being here. The same with many whites today. No one in my family, that I know of has ever owned a slave.

This was years and years ago, WHY should it still be an issue today. No one can change the past.. we can only work on a better future. It being very difficult to do so with such idiotic people.

[heinz57_79]

Wow... this thread has really developed. Despite the difference of opinions in a lot of the posts, I think it's a good thread.

Catnapper, I understand how conflicted you must feel. You are in a very difficult situation, and I realise how hard it must be to want your son to get into college, but because of the circumstances you feel like a hypocrite. At least your son has goals, dreams and desires. At least you have a good idea that in getting into college he'll work to achieve those goals. Which is more than a lot of people who get free rides.

I'd like to say that I am NOT bent out of shape because i didn't get into the school I wanted at the price I wanted. I was ticked off because I worked my rear off and got NOTHING while people who barely squeaked by got offered everything under the sun.

You know, 200 hundred years ago the conflict between blacks and whites was justified. Blacks were sold into slavery and bought by whites who generally mistreated them. But that was 200 years ago! It does not provide justification for the blacks who are living in poverty and still ranting and raving about The White Man's Sins. If it did, then anyone who's people had a bad past could use it as an excuse for crimes, etc.

As I said before, there is NO excuse for any type of discrimination, whether it is based on race, religion, sexual preference, etc. And just because one has experienced it, is no excuse for any lapses in behaviour. Nor should race, religion, disability, sexual preference or anything besides merit be a consideration when it comes to government funds for education. Techincally, if justice is blind then everything else should be as well. How hard would it be? I mean, really!

[G.P.girl]

Catnapper, I understand how conflicted you must feel. You are in a very difficult situation, and I realise how hard it must be to want your son to get into college, but because of the circumstances you feel like a hypocrite. At least your son has goals, dreams and desires. At least you have a good idea that in getting into college he'll work to achieve those goals. Which is more than a lot of people who get free rides.

that sad this is, you gotta do what you gotta do to get in to a good college. you have to take what you can get whether it's fair or not, because if you don't some other kid is going to come and snatch it right out from under your nose and when you have a job interview they're not going to hire you on "well...i was going to go to college....but i didn't like the scholarships they offered me" it sucks..it really does, and it all goes back to the sue happy people who sue because their kid didn't get in to the college he wanted to, so they're going to tyr to turn it in to a racist/disability thing.

[Karen]

Originally posted by Soledad
White on white discrimination such as with the Irish is definitely a part of history, but it's a matter of losing an accent. Much easier to overcome.

That's not quite true. It was a matter not just of an accent, but of the names, and the looks, too. If you met Paul's family, for example, you'd have no doubt as to their ethnicity.

[heinz57_79]

Good point, Karen. How many people had to change their names when they immigrated here to avoid problems? And there are a lot of races who will stand out just as much as anyone with a different skin colour. the Irish and Scots have the red hair, pale skin, etc. (like me... blah) The semetic races tend to have semetic features, like UABassoon's gf, my friend, Alexa. She's about as white as they come, but you can tell she comes from a semetic background. It's never a matter of simply "losing an accent".

[DJFyrewolf36]

I just get so tired of everyone blaming a whole race for a small group of peoples issues. Its impossible to define every single member of a race based on a few people. Stereotypeing is evil IMO.

Being an @$$ is being an @$$ no matter what race you are. Being nice is being nice no matter what race you are. As someone said earlier in this thread we all bleed the same color.

I'm an advocate of the quit whining principle.

Sorry if that sounds overly angry but thats just how I feel.

[G.P.girl]

Originally posted by DJFyrewolf36

I'm an advocate of the quit whining principle.

who's whining?

[CountryWolf07]

I don't think anybody is whining here - just stating out their opinions..