Im getting a dog!

[CountryWolf07]

Good Lord!

Knock it off, you guys..


Anyway - Congratulations! You'll find the name for the pup once you get him/her - it'll come to you.

[binka_nugget]

for your information, this mix of dog is something people have been doing for a while now-they have been actually trying to start a new breed-where do you think new breeds of dogs come from? They don't just appear from nowhere-they are made by mixing 2 or several different purebreeds together.

Have you visited your local pound lately? No one needs to breed mixes now. Maybe in the very distant future..when we have guaranteed homes for all dogs but not now. For every job needed to be done or personality to match, there is AT LEAST one breed already there! And if I'm wrong about there being a breed for everyone, there are MANY mutts out there.

I'm totally against breeding for anything BUT for the sake of improving the breed and keeping to the breed standard.

But back to the original intention for this thread..Please, don't let this little flare scare you from coming back to us. If you have any questions regarding raising a dog, ask us.

[Shelteez2]

Originally posted by CountryWolf07
Good Lord!

Knock it off, you guys..


Anyway - Congratulations! You'll find the name for the pup once you get him/her - it'll come to you.

Knock what off?
What is wrong with debating byb's and the purposeful breeding of mixed breeds? No one is becoming out of control it is a good healthy debate. People have congratulated the person who started the thread and stated their ideas as to why it's wrong to buy from a byb. How will anyone learn if no one tries to teach them?
Or perhaps we should just all smile and nod and turn a blind eye to the problem of over population on this continent. Never bring the issue up in case it might hurt someone's feelings.
I don't feel this thread is out of control, I feel it is very useful.

[Kfamr]

I agree 110% with TwisterDog.

[Twisterdog]

Good Lord!

Knock it off, you guys..

Hmmmm ... that was constructive, and added much to this thread. Not.

It is really a peeve of mine when people with nothing constructive to add to a thread come and tell everyone who ARE contributing to "knock if off". How rude, and juvenile, IMO.

I didn't come into your thread about which line to use at a concert and tell you to knock it off, now did I? I just ignored it. People should just not read threads if they aren't interested, stop reading threads if it takes a direction they are not comfortable with, and by all means, don't post if you have nothing constructive, intelligent or decent to add. Just my opinion.

Originally posted by Shelteez2
Knock what off?
What is wrong with debating byb's and the purposeful breeding of mixed breeds? No one is becoming out of control it is a good healthy debate. People have congratulated the person who started the thread and stated their ideas as to why it's wrong to buy from a byb. How will anyone learn if no one tries to teach them?
Or perhaps we should just all smile and nod and turn a blind eye to the problem of over population on this continent. Never bring the issue up in case it might hurt someone's feelings.
I don't feel this thread is out of control, I feel it is very useful.

Agreed!!!

[GoldenRetrLuver]

Originally posted by Shelteez2
Knock what off?
What is wrong with debating byb's and the purposeful breeding of mixed breeds? No one is becoming out of control it is a good healthy debate. People have congratulated the person who started the thread and stated their ideas as to why it's wrong to buy from a byb. How will anyone learn if no one tries to teach them?
Or perhaps we should just all smile and nod and turn a blind eye to the problem of over population on this continent. Never bring the issue up in case it might hurt someone's feelings.
I don't feel this thread is out of control, I feel it is very useful.

Ditto.

[stacwase]

It doesn't matter now. I doubt Cherry will be back anyway. She'll probably be raising her new puppy without our advice.

So why don't you all start a thread about bybs? Next time somebody comes on here who doesn't know about them and about all the harm they do, then somebody can say "Hey - we know you want to do the right thing, and maybe you don't know about back yard breeders. Why don't you check out the back yard breeder thread? But since you already committed yourself to the dog we'll help you to raise it responsibly".

That way we could talk about how we feel about bybs, and educate people about them, without making a new member feel dogpiled. Nobody would feel that all our anger is directed toward them, specifically.

Nobody is saying bybs are OK. But scaring off a new member is not going to help the plight of dogs in any way.

[Dawn]

Have you visited your local pound lately? No one needs to breed mixes now. Maybe in the very distant future..when we have guaranteed homes for all dogs but not now. For every job needed to be done or personality to match, there is AT LEAST one breed already there! And if I'm wrong about there being a breed for everyone, there are MANY mutts out there.

I'm totally against breeding for anything BUT for the sake of improving the breed and keeping to the breed standard.

But back to the original intention for this thread..Please, don't let this little flare scare you from coming back to us. If you have any questions regarding raising a dog, ask us.

I did not say I agreed with what was going on...or supported it-and for your information-I am very active in rescues and with my local shelter. I can proudly say I have saved many lives that were looking pretty doomed prior to my help.
I personally don't agree with a lot of things that go on in the "dog world" but honestly the "pure-bred" dogs that are being born today mostly all have problems whether they are bred "responsibly" or not...strictly from over-breeding. So the prospect of starting new breeds is not a bad idea.
But you are right in the fact that breeding should be halted completely till the 100's of homeless dogs are given homes first-but that is not going to happen-so, I think if you find the right pup for you, and they are mutts or pure-breds or purposely bred mutts-like my Tyr, and you can give it a good home -then AMEN! That is one less that will end up in a shelter!

[Logan]

Well, I am happy for you, Cherry! I would hope that if I announced that I was getting a new puppy that my Pet Talk friends would be happy for me too. Three of our four dogs were purchased as puppies, and they have proven to be delightful, lifelong friends to us. We did get a rescue dog the last time, and he is just as wonderful!

I hope you and your new puppy, who will be joining you soon, will be a wonderful addition to your family!

[My Peanuts]

Welcome to pet talk! Congrats on getting a puppy. Just remember the best pets are shelter pets! Also shelters always have puppies, not just older dogs. What ever you decide to get please post tons of pictures!

Everyone on here is nuts about their pets, me included. Any advice given is given with your pets best interests in mind. It is true that occasionally people come off a bit harsh, but remember they have seen things happen in shelters that are not pleasant. These people speak from experience. Please don't let that influence you in being part of the Pet Talk family and soon your views will change just like mine did! I bought Sylvia, a purebred Pug, from a pet store in June. I now know that this was a bad move. I'm glad I have Sylvia, but all my dogs for the rest of my life will come from a shelter, which is where Harley came from. Homeless dogs and cats are a huge problem

[wolfsoul]

Originally posted by Dawn

the "pure-bred" dogs that are being born today mostly all have problems whether they are bred "responsibly" or not...strictly from over-breeding. So the prospect of starting new breeds is not a bad idea.

You are contradicting yourself. First you say that all purebreds have problems -- then you say that you like the idea of starting a new breed?

[Dawn]

That is not what I said- I said that as a dog lover I am open to the idea of making new breeds to breed out the "problems" in pure-bred dogs, instead of continuing to breed & breed the same breeds -resulting in the same problems. Like for instance the Shiloh Shepherd, the breeder loved the disposition of the German Shepherd but the German Shepherd has so many health problems- so instead of continuing to breed it she tried to create a new breed to breed out the problems of the Shepherd -but keep the beauty and the other wonderful qualities of the Shepherd. but I am against over-breeding.
And by creating a new breed-if done correctly-it is to try to eliminate or at least to minimize certain health problems.

[wolfsoul]

In this society, causing a new breed WILL eventually cause overbreedeing and problems. Also, even though Shilohs are a relatively new breed, the breed is already suffering from hip/elbow dysplasia.

[Dawn]

Yes-this is true it is bound to happen with anything that is over-bred.
And again it goes back to demand and greed. Humans will destroy everything eventually.

[wolfsoul]

Exactly -- it's inevitable. And I don't think we need any more breeds to destroy. A dog is put down every four seconds in the US. If we have more....It's isn't exactly going to be the oppisite.