Dog meat in Korea!

[popcornbird]

Originally posted by Twisterdog




That makes no logical sense. They are totally different ... except for the fact that they are both birds. Ummm, ok. As to the "food" sense, again, that is cultural. Your "food sense" says it's ok to eat a chicken, and we have lots of chickens in the USA. A South American native's "food sense" says it's ok to eat a macaw, and they have lots of macaws in South America. What makes you right and him wrong?

That's not what I was saying. Soledad told Julie that she has a cockatiel, yet she eats chicken.................I was saying they're not the same thing, regarding to that statement.

I know its their culture, so I can't say they're doing wrong. Its just what they're used to. It seems wrong to us because we are not used to it.

As for us not eating goat.........goat is actually eaten a lot in the US! I eat goat a lot actually...........and its available in many stores around here.

[CathyBogart]

Our cultural boundaries in the US are so much stricter in some ways than other countries. Some of the comments here reminded me of an article regarding a teacher who was going to feed two puppies that were doomed at the HS to his snakes. There was a HUGE to-do, because in this country people actually believe that the life of a dog is more valuable than that of, say a rabbit.

Does a chicken not feel the same pain as a parrot? Is their life any less valuable to them? Is a dog's life really any more valuable than a cow's? I don't think so. Unfortunately, society places higher value on the lives of some animals than others, so in cases like this we see a knee-jerk emotoinal reaction from most people.

Does this mean I would eat dog? Probably not. I have also, on some level, fallen into this trap. (Not to mention predatory animals are poor food sources, but that's irrelevant right now) However, I would not scorn or be disgusted with anyone else for doing so.

Meh, sorry to ramble...

[mahayana]

We have several topics going in this thread: eating dogs, animal rights, cultural diversity, vegetarianism...

Is it ok if I add a biological perspective?

Humans are omnivores, with both canine and grinding teeth. We have 99% the same DNA as chimps. What is says in the Bible about every living thing (with a few poisonous exceptions) being food for us, is true.

We kill (or hire others to kill) basically everything we eat, be it plant or animal. With fresh produce our digestive system kills the individual cells, incorporates their life into our own.

In a deep and true sense, all animal life depends on plant life,and all life is a manifestation of solar energy.

I have been an ethical vegetarian, and have also killed fish, chickens, rabbits and goats for food (at different times in my life). From a biological point of view, most of our human existence was without fire, and we are probably best adapted to eating raw foods and bugs, hah.

Just a thought......

[CamCamPup33]

Originally posted by Twisterdog
In other places, goats, cats, dogs, monkeys and horses are routinely eaten. Who are we to say that eating a cow is ok, but eating a horse is not? By saying, "Eat this, don't eat this." one is effectively saying, "My culture is right, and yours is wrong." How arrogant and absurd. Eating cow is an abhorrant sin to Hindus. Yet we slaughter millions of cows, and none too humanely I might add. Who is right? Who is wrong?

Dogs here are considered 'pets' to live in the house, as pets.. Cattle is raised to be killed for food.. Thats how i have always known it.. I have never questioned it becuase i really never thought about killing dogs to eat them or to kill cat for food or even killing goats, cows ect.. That doesnt mean any of us are saying "My culture is right, Yours is wrong" Its a way of life that wont change, i know that.. But still i couldnt imagine ever ever doing anything like that to cami, let alone any dog.. Or even cattle..

[dukedogsmom]

I couldn't go to the sites, was afraid of what I'd see. I saw a little bit of this on a Humane Society program on TLC one time and it made me sick. I hope these heathens get what they deserve for doing this. May the all rott in hell. And the horses, I learned a lot are stolen from U.S. and are never recovered. It's horrible. That would be one reason I refuse to go to France. I don't want to support them in any way at all.

[CathyBogart]

Originally posted by dukedogsmom
I hope these heathens get what they deserve for doing this. May the all rott in hell.

And what we do in the US to cattle raised for food is any better?

[mahayana]

There would be a lot more vegetarians if people ever visited a slaughterhoue (meat packing plant), or had to kill the cows pigs chickens themselves.

[Soledad]

I hope these heathens get what they deserve for doing this. May the all rott in hell.

I'm sure there are plenty Hindus out there thinking the same thing about you.

[popcornbird]

Originally posted by Soledad
I'm sure there are plenty Hindus out there thinking the same thing about you.

Not only are we eating an animal...............for a Hindu, we're eating their gods!

[luckies4me]

Originally posted by Twisterdog
As much as I LOVE dogs, I have to agree with Richard and Soledad.

We eat cows, sheep, chickens and pigs. We don't eat goats or horses. Why? Seems to be an arbitary "rule" to me.

I for one eat goats. Not reguarly but while growing up it was very routine for my brother and sisters father to bring home a young goat or pig and butcher it. I LOVE goat meat. It's the best tasting meat in my opinion. I hate beef, besides corn beef, rarely eat pork and never eat sheep, eat fish, chicken and turkey more often. I prefer white meat, it's healthier. Although like I said, goat is just fantastic, especially in stew like Menudo. YUM! I also love Duck, I think that is my favorite meat, duck!

[popcornbird]

Originally posted by luckies4me
I for one eat goats.

Me too! We eat goat pretty often...........either its goat or sheep. Very rarely do we eat beef. Chicken and fish is what we eat most though. I am *not* a fish person, but my mom makes it more than any other meat because its the healthiest of them all. But I *love* chicken..........sheep, really depends on the animal, same with goat. If you get a good quality animal, the meat is usually very tender and yummy..........but if it turns out bad, then bleh. I hate the parts that are stringy. He he he. But goat is really good.......I find its meat similar to sheep meat. It has a slightly different flavor, but its very similar.

[luckies4me]

Originally posted by mahayana
There would be a lot more vegetarians if people ever visited a slaughterhoue (meat packing plant), or had to kill the cows pigs chickens themselves.

I for one could kill my own meat, a cow probably not as I don't eat them anyway, but a chicken or turkey I can and plan to when I get a bigger place and can raise my own meat. The way I would do it would be far less painful for the animal, and it would have known a GREAT life before sitting there on my plate.


All the meat I eat, I know exactly where it comes from. In fact I routinely go feed it on occasion....except maybe fish.

[luckies4me]

Originally posted by popcornbird
Me too! We eat goat pretty often...........either its goat or sheep. Very rarely do we eat beef. Chicken and fish is what we eat most though. I am *not* a fish person, but my mom makes it more than any other meat because its the healthiest of them all. But I *love* chicken..........sheep, really depends on the animal, same with goat. If you get a good quality animal, the meat is usually very tender and yummy..........but if it turns out bad, then bleh. I hate the parts that are stringy. He he he. But goat is really good.......I find its meat similar to sheep meat. It has a slightly different flavor, but its very similar.

Hehe that's funny because I like it when it's stringy like that. This thread is making me hungry! Think I'll go make a nice yummy chicken, broccoli, cheese omelette!

[CamCamPup33]

i would never be able to kill it!!

[popcornbird]

Originally posted by CamCamPup33
i would never be able to kill it!!

I wouldn't either..........but my dad and brother have done it before.

I saw it once up close...........but then I looked away. They did it at this farm we go to on occasion. The sheep..............it didn't scream or cry or anything! It just lay there quietly, and passed quietly, and poor little PCB ran away crying! Well, almost! LOL

It wasn't the sheep that made me cry. He didn't act like he was suffering at all which really amazed me. What scared me was the blood. I could never ever ever kill my own meat. Never. I think I'd pass out.

But I still eat meat, and I have seen it many times (from far). I know where all my meat comes from as well. Their animals live a good life before its their time..............we don't buy from the main meat industry.