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    Cricket

    Say what ever you want to say it steel wont change anything!
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    Do you even care about the health of Cricket? It really sounds like you don't.... We're trying to give you advice, and it seems to go through one ear and out the other.

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    UM? You are 14 and breeding??

    I am 14 and in 8th grade.
    (From her website)
    I HIGHLY doubt you even know what you are doing....much less "perfecting," the breed.

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    Yeah it is time....Just think MILLIONS of dogs and puppys are put to sleep because people are always breeding their dog. And you know what? your sounding like a backyard breeder you just keep breeding and breeding and you dont even care if she is having problems with litters!! It's time to get her spayed.

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    I don't want to be rude but I completely agree with everyone else that has replied to this thread. You say you love Cricket and yada-yada-yada, but I have a hard time believing that you actually believe it is okay to breed her as much as you have. You say that the problems she had for this litter weren't any major, but that was just THIS time. Think about it. Next time it could be much more serious. Think DEATH. Anything can go wrong during a delivery and it is not up to you to decide that Cricket still wants to have puppies. It wears a dog out, just think about having to carry around puppies for your entire life (which it sounds like she has had to do ). I feel sorry for poor Cricket and I really hope you get some sense knocked into you soon.

    ({Praying for Cricket and for some sanity to return to her owners})
    Lauren [me], Kato [rhodesian ridgeback], and Zariah [rhodesian ridgeback]



    ...don't litter! please spay or neuter your pets...
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    Hmmmm

    Look you all are being mean. You just belive what you'v read! Have you really seen it with you own eyes?! Or do you just belive what peole say? We have been doing this for a wile and we have gone through trials but that is a comitmit breeders make! We would never breed just for fun! If a one of our dogs does have a serious problem yes we will spay or nurter and retire it. If you dont know what your talking about I sugjust you dont say anything! We know what we are doing!
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    Well, I may be just one person, but I definatly know what I'm talking about. Otherwise I'd keep my mouth shut.
    I've been BOO'd!

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    If you dont know what your talking about I sugjust you dont say anything! We know what we are doing!


    Yeah, but alot of us do know what we are talking about. I feel so bad for poor Cricket, you should really spay her. It's the best thing for the dog. It kind of sounds like you don't really care about Cricket's health and happiness. It doesn't matter if you want to keep breeding her, she needs to be spayed and stop having puppies. The puppies will most likely grow up and have medical problems, and so will Cricket. You are only 14, I think that is a little too young to be making "adult decions". I know I am repeating what has already been said, but I don't care. You need to hear this whether you like it or not. We aren't trying to be rude, we are just trying to educate you for Criket (and the other dog's) sake.
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    Makes me glad I rescue my Nova girl.


    I agree with what everyone else is saying you certainly do not sound like a Quility breeder, more like a back yard breeder to me, and those are JUST as bad as puppy mills. Your poor female dog, she must be so tierd of having puppies by now. O and don't tell me she likes having puppies did you ever ask HER not you HER. No I didn't think so cause you can't talk ot dogs. How do you know she likes being bred and giving birth to puppies??? You don't so please if you love your dogs, get her spayed!

    Ash
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    ok look

    How do you think all your dogs got here?! If poeple spayed their dogs some of your fav. dogs might not even be here! Her prob wasnt even that big! Why are you all making such a big deal about this! Yes we do care for are dogs and WE know whats best for them! If we didnt care they would probley be dead!
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    Originally posted by apcrs5122
    It kind of sounds like you don't really care about Cricket's health and happiness. It doesn't matter if you want to keep breeding her, she needs to be spayed and stop having puppies. The puppies will most likely grow up and have medical problems, and so will Cricket.
    That's what I believe too. Having pups at such a young age and so many times can cause behavioural problems. No reputable breeder would ever think of breeding a dog in their first heat cycle. They are still practically puppies. They need time for their bones to develop properly. It can be so harmful to their birth canal if it isn't grown and fused properly.

    I think that this site can tell you alot about breeding. For instance, it tells you this, which is a better more detailed version of what we've already been telling you:

    deally, a bitch should only be bred every other year and she should not be bred much before two years of age. The season closest to the second birthday is a good one to start with; certainly no earlier than this. In some breeds, you may need to wait one more season before beginning. By this time, she is better prepared mentally for having puppies than she would have been with her first few seasons. Her physical growth is complete and pregnancy at this point won't endanger her health, provided that she is healthy to begin with.
    In breeds with Hip Dysplasia, many people wait until after two years of age so that the parents can be certified; however if you have sent in xrays to OFA for preliminary evaluation and they came back as fine, many breeders consider it safe enough to then breed on the season closest to the second year, which can wind up being before the bitch is actually old enough to be certified. (And when the bitch is old enough, she is, of course, duly certified.) But the preliminary xrays must be examined by OFA, not by a local veterinarian. There are many dysplastic dogs out there that had vets look at their xrays and pronounce them "wonderful."

    It's important, however, to keep the frequency of breeding low. Even at maximum, you want to allow at least one unbred season between breedings. This allows your bitch to rest and regain her strength. A bitch that whelps too often will produce weaker puppies more likely to die, and the repeated pregnancies are pretty rough on her, too.

    For dogs, they should definitely have all their certifications necessary. For many breeds this means that they should be over two years old. Since a dog can be bred at any time, unlike bitches, waiting for two years is not a problem, whereas a bitch often has a season just before two years of age and then has to wait until 2.5 or three which sometimes presents problems in trying to time her litters. But this does not apply to a stud dog, so he should definitely have all of his checks and certifications before being bred. Frequency is not generally a problem although some dogs have problems with sperm production if they breed once a day for several days. They need top-quality feeding and care if they are going to be bred often.
    I've been BOO'd!

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    I couldn't see his picture!
    I'd really like to see your little poodle boy. ^_^
    But yes, you do know what's best for your dog. You DO know how to handle it, and it's your decision. Don't let anybody else get you down, okay?

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    Re: ok look

    Originally posted by SlaveTo9Dogs
    How do you think all your dogs got here?! If poeple spayed their dogs some of your fav. dogs might not even be here!
    This really made me fume! YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW DUKE GOT HERE? He and 4 other dogs were dumped on a road in the middle of nowhere.(He was 4 months old) Luckilly, a kind lady took them all in and found homes for them. "People" like you make people like me(dog rescue) sick.

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    You want to know how my dog got here??? He came from a RESPONSIBLE breeder. He cares for every dog as if it was his own child. He even has a custom made heated house which would even be suitable for humans. He doesn't breed at every heat. His dogs don't live their life pregnant. His dogs get the loving and care each of them deserve.

    And in reply to your comment about not seeing something happen..blahblahblah. Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    Kai [Sheltie], Kaedyn [Sheltie], Keeva [Malinois], Kwik [Malinois]

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    Originally posted by Crikit

    Oh and just in case you're wondering in my books at least breeding a dog every single time that in comes in to heat "just because the dog likes having puppies around" is pretty much the same thing as a puppy mill, not only that I but I feel that it's unethical.

    I agree,

    think about it this way.... It isnt healthy for a dog to have pups every time she is in heat, it is really bad for their health, Most GOOD breeders dont even attempt to breed their dogs untill, taking the dog to the vet, learning about risks, asking them selves why they want to take thoughs risks, discussing it with family and friends and ppl how know and care(like pt), thinking and learning about both dogs temprements, taking into considerationg how old the dog is, and what both dogs parents were like and if they were healthy.

    these are only few of many things you or your family should think about..

    did you know now that you have let your dog be unspayed during 1 or more heats, she is 70% more likely to get cancer in her uterus...

    "Why breed when so many are homless in shelters all over the world?"
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