WMD Reported Found

[tatsxxx11]

I agree Karen! Unfortunately, most of the world is still waiting for us to offer up some tangible evidence. Sad to think how many around the world are desperately hoping the coalition will fail in this endevour so as to bolster their "case" against the U.S.
Several former UNSCOM head inspectors have recently expressed their opinions that without question, these agents are being hidden by the regime and will eventually be found somewhere. As the U.N. report stated in 1999, Iraq had to date, yet to account for a myriad of chemical weapons known to be in their possession. What has happened to them? Where are they? If they no longer existed, as was the Iraqi's claim, U.N. inspectors required that the Iraqi govt. provide to UNSCOM proof of their destruction, e.g. provide written documentation of their erradication, show them the sites where they were discarded, dumped, etc. So, why didn't he??

[momoffuzzyfaces]

Um, pesticide can kill people too!!!
IF the substance turns out to be pesticide, that doesn't explain why they found 20 missiles with it in their warheads. No bug on earth is so big it needs a missile fired at it.

[iceyshiver21]

Pesticide can be used for alot of things......take some time and think on that.....

[Soledad]

Um, bleach can also be used to kill people. What are you going to do? Ban bleach and pesticides from countries you don't like?

Pesticides are hardly WMD.

I have no doubt Saddam is a ruthless thug. I know he's killed hundreds of thousands (not to mention torture and rape), and I don't doubt we'll find stuff when this war is over. But let's not jump the gun.

[tatsxxx11]

Actually, there is no one compound that defines "pesticide.." How one defines pests is another "pesky" problem.

pes·ti·cide n. A chemical used to kill pests, especially insects. –pesti·cidal adj.

To the home landscaper, a grub might be considered a pest; to Saddam, perhaps Kurds??? I wonder why those non-sensical landscapers, applying relatively low levels of "pesticide" around town, ever bother to don those rubber boots, gloves, masks, and are required by law to notify all abutting homes of their intention to apply pesticides in the area. Having a degree in both botany and ornamental horticulture I know very well the dangers of "mere" pesticides. No need to heed the warning of the mandatory warning they leave behind, staked in the lawn...."Danger Pesticide Applied"

As for bleach!!!.....Ah, yes, that oldie but goodie. The "mother" of all WMD. In fact, the history of chemcial warfare can be traced back to German chemist Fritz Haber, who has been "credited" with with developing the first poison gases for Germany during WWI. The Germans conducted the first chlorine gas attack on April 22, 1915, against the French troops facing them at Ypres in Belgium. They set up 5,730 cylinders of chlorine gas and opened up the valves and 180 tons of gas were released into the air. After two days, 5,000 were dead and over 10,000 disabled, more than half of them permanently.



1. 1 cup of "bleach" added to an average sized load of laundry makes my whites white!


2. At 30 parts of chlorine to one million parts of air, chlorine is a nasty irritant that causes harsh coughing and severe eye irritation.

3. At 1,000 parts per million parts of air, chlorine is lethal, causing blindness and stripping the lining from the lungs and causing victims to drown in their own fluids.

As with so many things in life, it's all a matter of degreee, intention and application.

Just bleach????????

[Soledad]

I think what I am getting at is how does one ban other countries from having bleach and pesticides. It's ludicrous. Why not wait for some more compelling evidence.

[iceyshiver21]

Originally posted by Soledad
I think what I am getting at is how does one ban other countries from having bleach and pesticides. It's ludicrous. Why not wait for some more compelling evidence.

Know one said to ban it as far as I know, although I may have missed it....and yes there is no right way to ban them.....but ya gotta wonder these chems are in the hands of a mad man, and what are they doing near a training camp?!?!

[iceyshiver21]

Didnt sombody say somthing about that they where buried?? Why would you do that?

[tatsxxx11]

I am waiting... drawing no conclusions here without further testing. Just trying to make the point that even seemingly "innocuous" agents can have ominous applications. And of course I agree, bleach, pesticides, et.al, utilized in the conventional means, cannot/need not be banned! Persons having the intent of causing deliberate harm through the use of these agents, should be banned. As I said, it's a matter of concentration, intention and application. In this case, I found that the circumstances surrounding their discovery, e.g. where they found, having been hidden in trenches, etc. lent intrigue to the calculus.

[momoffuzzyfaces]

FOX news is reporting the find of a POSSIBLE rolling Bio-chem lab. They've found a truck with false sides and very interesting things inside. There are also some funny things happening around a underground nuclear power facility. There is also a mention of plutonium which they aren't supposed to have. Three building have been found with so much radiation that humans can't enter them. Just thought some of you might be interested.

[Logan]

I am interested, Connie. Thanks for bringing that to our attention since I don't have the tv on while I'm working. I have no doubt that they will find them. It may just take a while.

Logan