This is for the veterans...

[babolaypo65]

you mean the dead squirrel on his head?

Originally posted by RICHARD
check out his haircut, you'll understand

[mugsy]

Now don't go insulting the poor squirrel!!

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by babolaypo65
you mean the dead squirrel on his head?

now wait a second......i post something, all of you run with it and then it comes back to me............


babo,

behave or i'll have to assimilate you into the group.

[babolaypo65]

and years from now, the dead squirrel comment will be attributed to you. lucky you!

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by babolaypo65
and years from now, the dead squirrel comment will be attributed to you. lucky you!

i've been blamed for far worse in my life.....

problems with mr rumsfeldt would be a welcome change.
at least i have an idea who the enemy is!

[momoffuzzyfaces]

I have no idea if he wears a hair piece. I just shudder to think his real hair looks like that! Sorry!

[jackiesdaisy1935]

Babolaybo I have lived through the 2nd world war, Korea, Vietnam, and the rest and although I do believe the CIA is capable of doing many bad things, I have never heard anything like that ever.

Soledad, A question? What do you suggest if we didn't go to war could have been done? Would it have been better to leave Saddam alone and let him stockpile all those WOMD, why do you think he was building this stockpile? What about the people of Iraq, who have been gassed, killed, tortured, should we have turned our back on them? Do you think they would have had a better life when his two sons took over power? I'm just not sure I understand where you are coming from, is it because you believe the Arab world will rise against us?
Jackie

[Soledad]

We had overwhelming support all over the world after 9-11. Any half-assed diplomat could have harnessed that into harsh and relentless weapons inspections. But we got Bush Jr. whose attitude and obvious desire for war put everyone off. We could have continued inspections and in the mean time garnered more support from other countries to invade if necessary. But we didn't. We shot our wad, went in and now the majority of the world (not just the middle east) thinks we're ignorant rabid cowboys who want to get their hands on the oil.


Let me ask YOU JackieDaisy, what should we do with Israel and Zimbabwe. Israel has the most infractions against the UN. More so than Iraq. What about Zimbabwe? Why are we not invading and deposing of Mugabe??

[mugsy]

I guess I don't understand why we are ALWAYS the bad guy when we give billions of dollars in aide to all these countries who hate us so much, but, I've asked before and still haven't heard an explanation that satisfied me, oh well, I probably never will. And no, I'm not waiting for the answer that fits my views.

[jackiesdaisy1935]

Soledad, I really don't know much about Israel or Zimbabwe. I feel sorry for the suicide bombings that Israel has had, but then there is the other side, the Palestinian people have also suffered.
In my opinion there will never be peace there, I hate to say this, but I think there is too much hate for them to ever agree on anything.

As far as Zimbabwe I don't know anything about it and won't even attempt to answer your question because of my ignorance of the situation.

I think we all have our opinions of what is going on, only time will give us the answers to our questions.
Jackie, Perry and Miss Daisy

[Miss Meow]

Originally posted by mugsy
I guess I don't understand why we are ALWAYS the bad guy when we give billions of dollars in aide to all these countries who hate us so much, but, I've asked before and still haven't heard an explanation that satisfied me, oh well, I probably never will. And no, I'm not waiting for the answer that fits my views.

Just some observations:

- the aid is often of a short-term nature, ie famine relief, and not to help with long term strategies for improvement
- the financial aid is often used to repay foreign debts to other countries and doesn't get to the people most in need (and the people don't have the resources to unseat the government)
- the country giving the aid may have caused the problem in the first place (general note, not making any case against America). Australia and the island of Nauru are classic examples. We mined millions of tons of phosphate from Nauru, the government squandered the money on speculative investments rather than more stable programs, and now they're broke and being used as a dumping ground for Iraqi and Afghan refugees that our current government doesn't want on our soil
- some countries are sick and tired of being given hand-outs and treated like charity cases for decades because it suits other countries to keep them like that

As far as anything specific re America, I don't know enough about the USA's foreign aid policy and what people in other countries think, so I'm not even going there

[mugsy]

Soledad, since you did it to Richard, I will do it to you. Thanks so much for ruining a thread that was supposed to be positive. I'm with Jackie, you seem to HAVE to make something positive into something negative.