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    Originally posted by jackiesdaisy1935


    I belong to another dog community who is going to adopt a company of soldiers who are on the front lines, and our members are going to send little packages and letters to these men to let them know that we support their effort and appreciate the sacrifices they and their families are making for all of us.
    Jackie, Perry and Miss Daisy

    please send them baby wipes!!!!! as stupid as this sounds a talk show host got a call from a woman who asked people to send baby wipes...water is at a premium and the soldiers need them to wipe their faces and hands!!!!!!
    i am looking into getting a so cal company to donate some!

    thanks!!!!
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    Originally posted by RICHARD
    you can go to the dod.gov website and click on the "DEAR ABBY"link.....you can post messages to be read by the troops overseas.... the messages that brought tears to my eyes were the ones from Australia. what a classy bunch of people!
    Richard,
    That url wont work for me...is there another one I can try?
    ...RIP, our sweet Gini...

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    Originally posted by jackiesdaisy1935
    I belong to another dog community who is going to adopt a company of soldiers who are on the front lines, and our members are going to send little packages and letters to these men to let them know that we support their effort and appreciate the sacrifices they and their families are making for all of us.
    Jackie, Perry and Miss Daisy
    Jackie,
    How did you go about doing this? I would like to do this as well. Can you PM me some information?
    Thanks.
    ...RIP, our sweet Gini...

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    Originally posted by NoahsMommy

    Richard,
    That url wont work for me...is there another one I can try?
    sorry i didn't post it as a URL..... i just typed dod.gov in my web browser........remember when you read my posts you are dealing with a moron!!

    here's the address!

    www.defenselink.mil/
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    Thank you RICHARD for
    the web site,
    I just sent my e-mails out.


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    There is no going back now, no point in arguing and going over the whys and wherefores. It is done.
    I agree with this. This war has pros and cons, and we could argue until we are blue in the face whether it should have happened or not. But the fact of the matter is, it is happening right now. And our neighbors, relatives, friends, co-workers, loved ones are now on the front lines of an actual war. IMO, the time for bickering and arguing is over. We are Americans, we live in America, and America is at war. We need to be patriotic and supportive.

    The public is obviously not so anti-war ... or we would not have elected Bush president in the first place. He and his father both have a history of not shying away from conflict. If, in the future, the public becomes overwhelmingly anti-war, then we will elect a passifist (sp?) to office. We speak as a whole with who we elect, that is the way of a democaracy. If we were completely opposed to the idea of war and conflict, we would not have elected Bush and Cheney.

    I find the entire concept of an actual, real war difficult to grasp, frankly. I think everyone under the age of forty in the USA does. We don't remember Korea, we don't remember Viet Nam. The only "war" we have any recollection of is Desert Storm ... which was frankly portrayed as a video game by the media. We have no idea, as a generation, what it is like to be at war, to lose someone in a war, etc. Our parents and grandparents know, but we have no clue.

    And lastly, to end this long ramble, let me offer one of my favorite quotes .... "If you are not a liberal when you are young, you don't have a heart. If you are not a consevative when you are older, you don't have a brain." I have always liked this quote, because it seems SO true. For those of us in our thirties, forties, fifties, etc .... would we have felt the same way about this war if were in our teens or twenties? And for those of you in your teens and twenties ... don't be so quick to condemn the views of those older than you ... you haven't walked the miles that we have yet.

    Just some food for thought .....
    "We give dogs the time we can spare, the space we can spare and the love we can spare. And in return, dogs give us their all. It's the best deal man has ever made" - M. Facklam

    "We are raised to honor all the wrong explorers and discoverers - thieves planting flags, murderers carrying crosses. Let us at last praise the colonizers of dreams."- P.S. Beagle

    "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost. From the ashes a fire shall be woken, A light from the shadows shall spring; Renewed shall be blade that was broken, The crownless again shall be king." - J.R.R. Tolkien

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    My parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles are all liberal and they're all over 40 and have many years of military service between them.

    And, just as an aside, Bush wasn't elected. He was appointed.

    I thought I'd add this as well:

    "In Washington, about 200 American military veterans marched in opposition to the war. They laid wreaths at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial and other monuments and attempted to deliver a petition signed by more than 2,600 veterans to the White House.

    The antiwar veterans were turned away by White House guards and told they would have to mail the petition. "

    What's that about peace protesters being young, war-ignorant peaceniks??
    Last edited by Soledad; 03-23-2003 at 06:51 PM.

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    Thank you Richard. I've sent emails to each branch of the armed forces. I know it's not much, but besides praying, it's all I can do.

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    What's that about peace protesters being young, war-ignorant peaceniks??
    Did I say that? Please show me where I said "all peace protesters are young, war-ignorant, peaceniks", please, I'd be most interested to see this. Or are you quoting someone else? Or are you just twisting words around? I really, really hate it when people generalize statements others have made, condense them, rearrange them, use them out of context .. and then try to pass them off as a direct quote. I sure hope that wasn't what you were trying to do to my post with that sentence. I'll assume not.
    "We give dogs the time we can spare, the space we can spare and the love we can spare. And in return, dogs give us their all. It's the best deal man has ever made" - M. Facklam

    "We are raised to honor all the wrong explorers and discoverers - thieves planting flags, murderers carrying crosses. Let us at last praise the colonizers of dreams."- P.S. Beagle

    "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost. From the ashes a fire shall be woken, A light from the shadows shall spring; Renewed shall be blade that was broken, The crownless again shall be king." - J.R.R. Tolkien

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    Good assumption!

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    I don't like the fact that we have wonderful, intelligent young men fighting over there in Iraq, more than likely the cream of the crop, I wonder what they are thinking when they are ready to lay down their lives for people they have never known, poor people who have been tortured, starved, and have had no say in their government.
    What do these protesters say to them with their signs? We want peace? Why do you think these men are over there, do you think these young men love war? We have four young people who are prisoners, and others who were executed, they gave up their lives to help these people and keep the world free.

    Don't you think it is time that we show these young people in uniform that we all want peace, tell them we understand their willingness to fight for what they believe in, that they have the courage of their convictions. That we care what happens to them.

    I'm an old woman, not political, not very smart, there are a lot of things that could be better done in this country, but I'll tell you
    the men and women over in Iraq whether they be from the good ole USofA or England are the best there is, that's for sure.
    Jackie, Perry and Miss Daisy


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    Hi Jackie,

    I support the troops. I know they are out there in the dead heat doing a job that I could not. They are brave, smart, focused, dedicated and loyal. No doubt about it.

    My father is a Vietnam vet, my grandfather a Korean vet. I could go on, but a vast majority of my family has been in the service.

    I have never claimed that the soldiers are warmongers. My discontent lies with the President and his administration. That is all. I think that the people who continue to go to peace vigils/stand ins are doing so to gather and hope/pray for the best possible outcome.

    And Jackie, we all know you're smart.

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    I too don't like the war, but I like even less is people like Hitler, Saddam has to be stopped be fore he does more killing of his people. I too am very angry at France,and Germany. Do they not remeber how much american blood was shed for them in the past? I had a friend who was telling a group of my business assocites about his trip to Normandy and the memorials there. How could a country so thankful for us be so unhelpful and forget. My opinion cut all the millions we are sending them Now.
    I just think of the people that they have already had contact with asking for food and water. The picture they showed on NBC of that 1st village and the man on his knees asking for them just mad me so sad. They are sarving and they leader is building palaces the size of shopping malls. The peace protesters should see that. Even city dwellers in Bagdad are hungry and just barly makiing it. If your not part of the regime you arn't worthy (according to Saddam.)
    Ok my 2 cents worth, as I pray for my daughters best freind(neew mommy) and her husband as their ship has been called up (medical) I have no Idea who is going to be caring for the 4 month old baby.

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    Oh Soledad, I can't be too smart because I like President Bush, lol
    Actually I thought he surrounded himself with some pretty smart cookies, men with lots of experience, he seems straight forward, honest, caring and believes in a higher authority then himself.
    Just think he picked a woman as his national security advisor can't get any better than that, right? I don't think he is liked by the Hollywood crowd because he doesn't pander to them like the former playboy President that we had, lol.
    Anyway thanks for telling me I'm smart, but I could never keep with up with the smart chickees we have on here. lol
    Jackie


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    Chris-that was a good article. thanks for the link

    As far as anti-war protests, yes they were upsetting to me. Although, from the majority of people I've spoken with and from what I've seen, anti-war protesters are not against our troops, rather they want to bring them home. That's what I told Joey when I e-mailed him about the protests. I know he and some of our friends from his Marine Corps unit were a tad upset when they heard of all the protests, said it made them question why exactly they're doing what they're doing, made them feel as if what they're doing is all for nothing. Of course, they really don't dwell on that. When I spoke with him last, they were just focused on getting the job done so he could come home.

    For those looking to send care packages to troops...yes, one of the main items they need is BABY WIPES...lots and lots of baby wipes. For a list of items to send, check out :

    http://www.operationshoebox.com

    **Support our Troops**


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