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**RICHARD** · 09-06-2008, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Willow Oak

Personally, I like the caveman mentality: knock woman over head with club. Drag woman back to cave.

Rule of thumb?
If you do drag anyone back to a cave, do it by the hair. If you drag them by the ankles they get dirt stuck in all kinds of strange places.

**Catty1** · 09-06-2008, 12:59 PM

Personally, I like the caveman mentality: knock woman over head with club. Drag woman back to cave.

I have a feeling this was ever so slightly tongue-in-cheek?

Unconscious women are really not very responsive. You need to set your standards a little higher!

**Willow Oak** · 09-06-2008, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by Daisy and Delilah

Oh my goodness!!! What is happening here? This discussion is getting very nasty.

Willow Oak: I'm personally glad you've joined this board and glad to see what you do. What you're saying is going to cause flames to erupt. Please calm down.

If flames erupt it won't be my fault. I think a mother with a Down's Syndrome child should stay home with it -- especially if she has the financial means to do so.

I do not apologize for my stance, and I will not back down from it. Just like I don't back down from rescuing animals ... in the face of the criticism I get from people like Larry and others (albeit Larry has changed his tune).

Phooey on!

**RICHARD** · 09-06-2008, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Catty1

Unconscious women are really not very responsive. You need to set your standards a little higher!

Touche'!
Does it apply to men who immediately roll over and go to sleep?

**caseysmom** · 09-06-2008, 01:07 PM

I have a very good friend with a down's syndrome child who works and she is a wonderful mother. Her daughter goes to school all day, are you implying down's children should not go to school?

**Puckstop31** · 09-06-2008, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by Willow Oak

In your case I think I do have a clue.

Now I know that we all make typos here. No big deal, but grammatical errors or inexcuseable. It should be: "You have no idea to whom you are talking." Never end a sentence with a preposition.

Originally Posted by Willow Oak

Down Sundrome

I figure I would stay at the level of your, ummmm, "point".

**caseysmom** · 09-06-2008, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Puckstop31

LMAO!

**JenBKR** · 09-06-2008, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Willow Oak

As for the person who suggested that I would never vote for a woman: you've revealed that you have a problem with men. You presume that because I am a man that I wouldn't vote for a woman. You don't have any idea what I would do or for whom I would vote. I could vote for Sarah Palin, but any woman with five children -- one a less than one-year-old Down Sundrome child -- has no business being vice-president or anything else. Go home and take care of that child! Leave it to a nanny? That's what's wrong with this world -- leave the responsibility to someone else.

You talk all concerned, and I may be ignorant, as you say, but you would never do what I do. Phooey on you!

No, I presume that you would never vote for a woman because of your statements. It has nothing to do with the fact that you are a man. I am absolutely appalled and disgusted by some of your statements.

I stand by my OP, and follow-up. Most of these responses have been made without giving any thought to what I said: "If I had a Down's Syndrome child and her money ...

No, we all read what you said. Why you would think that would make any difference is beyond me.

There are a lot of working mothers who are fantastic mothers, and for you to imply that a woman can't be both is barbaric. I can think of one wonderful, respected member of this board that is a single mother and is also an attorney. She loves her child more than anything in the world, and she is a wonderful mother. She, and others like her, are not 'passing the responsibility' on to someone else. They work harder, both in their jobs and at home, than you will ever know.

LH, I am glad to see you weighing in on this....if my DH were to read this he would be just as upset. It takes SO MUCH MORE than 5 minutes to be a father, and I am just shocked that anyone would make such a statement.

**Willow Oak** · 09-06-2008, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by caseysmom

LMAO!

**JenBKR** · 09-06-2008, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Puckstop31

I figure I would stay at the level of your, ummmm, "point".

Yes, talk about the pot calling the kettle black......

**Daisy and Delilah** · 09-06-2008, 01:14 PM

WO: You certainly have the right to your opinions. I respect that greatly. You should be allowed to say what you want, within reason, and not have to apologise for anything other than violating the Mayor's rules.

I am concerned because you mentioned possibly leaving the board. We've seen people get upset and never come back. I didn't want you to be one of those people.

This is such a controversial subject, and, it would get heated fast. I hope everyone can just have a discussion and no one decides to leave the board. We don't want to lose anybody. I just met you and would hate to see you go.

**caseysmom** · 09-06-2008, 01:15 PM

Yes one must be very careful pointing out grammatical errors not to make any at said calling out

Decreases credibility substantially.

**Lady's Human** · 09-06-2008, 01:15 PM

I don't give a rat's tail if I end a sentence with a preposition or invective. This isn't English 101.

You started the flames with your neanderthal opinion of parenting. Frankly, you have much to learn. It's called reality. Both parents are needed, and both need to spend time parenting.

Maybe Sen. Obama's going to leave his chillun's with a nanny? Or is it just Gov. Palin who's gonna leave the chillun's with a nanny?

**caseysmom** · 09-06-2008, 01:17 PM

McCain has a daughter under 18 perhaps he shouldn't run either

**Karen** · 09-06-2008, 01:18 PM

By the way, Willow Oak: I know one woman who has four boys. The eldest of them is a Downs Syndrome child. If you ask her, or her husband, he was the by far the easiest of them to care for as a baby. And yes, both she and her husband work, and yet this DS boy has gotten plenty of care, goes to school, and plays with his brothers, all of whom are growing up knowing that some people are different, but in many ways are the same as the rest of us.