Help stop Internet Porn - Please!

[wolf_Q]

Where is Karen?

This may be the "general" section of Pet Talk but it's still "Pet" Talk...nice, friendly, caring Pet Talk....

[popcornbird]

Originally posted by Soledad
who sets the standards for what's acceptable and what isn't? And at what point does it stop? I'm not really interested in living in a world where other people decide what I see and what I don't see. What are we going to do next, Popcornbird, burn books?

I have no idea what you are talking about, and what post you are replying to. I have no idea where on earth you got this " What are we going to do next, Popcornbird, burn books?" crap from, and what you mean by it. I was talking about the disgusting sites the whole time, and that they should not be allowed ***my opinion.*** Its better to have a clean society than to provide freedom in every aspect, such as the porn thing. Everyone should be provided with freedom, but not freedom that will because a cause of corruption (I hope you understand what I mean by this). For me, God sets the standards of what is acceptable and what isn't, and in God's eyes, these nasty sites are totally inacceptable. Almost all major world religions forbid such things. I do NOT want to get into an argument or anything, and I don't know what you are talking about. Shall we end it here?

[popcornbird]

Originally posted by wolf_Q
Where is Karen?

This may be the "general" section of Pet Talk but it's still "Pet" Talk...nice, friendly, caring Pet Talk....

I agree with you wolf_Q. Let's put an end to this.

[ChrisH]

Sorry I posted this before I read the "end it" stuff.

This thread struck a nerve with me because of what made the news today in my small corner of the world. Here is the link Online Paedophile suspects arrested
This problem is worldwide, just the same as the internet is worldwide, that is why I signed the petition. Not to curtail anyones freedom, God forbid.
I love America, as many of my country men and women do, what it stands for, most everything about your country, nearly as much as I love my own. I was able to be born here 56 years ago and am also able to live in freedom, because of the combined stand and sacrifice of the people of your land, my land, and other brave peoples too, to keep that freedom and keep darkness at bay. I am not trying to glorify war or even advocate it. But sometimes, as then, when being attacked, when your way of life, indeed the life of your family, friends and neighbors is in mortal danger, it cannot be avoided.
I know this issue today is not exactly the same thing but to me, by anyones standards this child porn stuff is surely totally unaccepable. Full stop. I am certain there is no-one here who will disagree with me on that. To me, if a "war" against that, if stopping it somehow, means curtailing some freedom, well, so be it.

[Soledad]

Sorry if I offended you. Didn't mean for that. You seem really interested in the debate and I was confused by many of your statements, such as "freedom for whites" and saying that we should be like Saudi Arabia and ban porn (??!!). Seeing as Saudi Arabia is one of the most oppressive states, these statements are somewhat disturbing to me. But, like I said, didn't mean to offend you.

[popcornbird]

Originally posted by Soledad
Sorry if I offended you. Didn't mean for that. You seem really interested in the debate and I was confused by many of your statements, such as "freedom for whites" and saying that we should be like Saudi Arabia and ban porn (??!!). Seeing as Saudi Arabia is one of the most oppressive states, these statements are somewhat disturbing to me. But, like I said, didn't mean to offend you.

Saudi Arabia has many stupid laws but it also has good ones "like banning bad sites." I mentioned China as well. I was mentioning it because its one of the states that has bad sites banned, and I like that law, although I do NOT like many of their rules, even though they also have good ones. I have been there many times and it is not what many Americans think it to be. From the "freedom for whites" thing, I know that the Constitution provides freedom to everyone, but it is not ALWAYS implied. I know what the blacks went through, although they achieved their freedom through lots of struggle, and I know what the Japanese in the States went through during the Haroshima/Nagasaki war, even though you had the same rights in the Constitution at that time (correct me if I'm wrong). I think you mis-understood my statements. I did NOT mean to offend anyone and I was surprised by your reply, but I guess you didn't mean to offend me either. Sorry if I said anything that offended you or anyone else. And let's get this over with!

[Soledad]

I'm still confused and don't understand where you're going with this. Oh well, not important anyway. I'll end this by saying that I'm not for censorship or having politicians dictate to me what I can and cannot see, and what is considered "decent". I don't want to live in a country like Saudi Arabia or China.

[Dixieland Dancer]

Originally posted by Soledad
who sets the standards for what's acceptable and what isn't? And at what point does it stop? I'm not really interested in living in a world where other people decide what I see and what I don't see.

Who - GOD!

[Soledad]

Hitler also believed in censoring what people saw if he considered it 'indecent'. He then went on to burn books, destroy art, and basically wipe out a large part of our world history.

[Soledad]

We live in a secular society. I don't believe in your God and don't want to be told to live by rules that someone else's religion created.

[Karen]

Okay, folks, as to "Where is Karen?" I was having an extremely hectic day at my other job, and was not able to be on Pet Talk for much of the afternoon because the Inetrnet Service Provider we use here and at the office I work at wasn't connecting to most of the Internet at all.

I am sorry.

This is a controversial subject that people feel strongly about. Anyone who wants to debate this can go to any city street corner and find willing debaters, I am sure.

I am closing this thread before more people read a few posts, then post without reading the whole thread, and perpetuate the argument.

Everyone go snuggle a pet!

If you're mad at me for closing this thread PM me, okay? You have the freedom to do that!