In the name of thousands of cats, PLEASE BOYCOTT THE BEJING OLYMPICS!!

[moosmom]

Oops..I guess I was wrong...HOWEVER, Bejing IS communistic, right?? That and the killing of those poor innocent animals has me truly pissed off.

[caseysmom]

Oops..I guess I was wrong...HOWEVER, Bejing IS communistic, right?? That and the killing of those poor innocent animals has me truly pissed off.

Donna, Nobody advocates the killing of animals, it is done here everyday though as I know you are aware. Last olympics there was the same outcry if you remember about the killing of the stray dogs in Italy.

What does communism have to do with this? The Olympics were started to bring the athletes of the world together and the countries would forget their differences for the sake of the sporting events and the athletes, it is really none of our business if they are communist is it? Can you explain what you mean by that?

[kittycats_delight]

Donna, Nobody advocates the killing of animals, it is done here everyday though as I know you are aware. Last olympics there was the same outcry if you remember about the killing of the stray dogs in Italy.

What does communism have to do with this? The Olympics were started to bring the athletes of the world together and the countries would forget their differences for the sake of the sporting events and the athletes, it is really none of our business if they are communist is it? Can you explain what you mean by that?

I do have to interject here about the killing of stray dogs in Italy. There is no such thing as a kill shelter in Italy. It is completely illegal to do what you suggest here in Italy. This is the first I have heard of this.

According to Dr. Enrico Moriconi, president of the newly formed AVDA, or Veterinari per i Diritti degli Animali (Association of Veterinarians for Animal Rights), Italy is a world leader in animal rights law. Since 1991 it has been illegal to kill healthy dogs and cats living in shelters.

Turin, the prosperous industrial city in northern Italy that will play host to the 2006 Winter Olympics, has passed strict animal protection laws, dating back to the time of Guisseppe Garibaldi, the political activist who founded the first animal protection society in Italy, the Ente Nazionale Protezione Animali (Society for the Protection and Care of Animals), in 1871.

If you want to see the link for this check here it is the last 2 paragraphs of page 1. The article is called 'The Pope & The Pussycats'.

I think you are 100% mistaken as the scandal was about the Athens 2004 games and the slaughter of stray dogs. The numbers were never confirmed but it is speculated between 1500 and 4000 we poisoned to clean up the streets of Athens for the games.

[caseysmom]

I do have to interject here about the killing of stray dogs in Italy. There is no such thing as a kill shelter in Italy. It is completely illegal to do what you suggest here in Italy. This is the first I have heard of this.


If you want to see the link for this check here it is the last 2 paragraphs of page 1. The article is called 'The Pope & The Pussycats'.

I think you are 100% mistaken as the scandal was about the Athens 2004 games and the slaughter of stray dogs. The numbers were never confirmed but it is speculated between 1500 and 4000 we poisoned to clean up the streets of Athens for the games.

I stand corrected ...sorry about that I didn't think it was that long ago and kudos to Italy.

[moosmom]

Communism, something that breaks people apart, is alive and active in Bejing. I find it bizarre that a city that promotes communisim was asked to sponosor games that is supposed to bring people together.

I am also OUTRAGED that China is going to have the torch brought to the summit of Everest and a communist Chinese flag placed at the top of Everest. THAT is a slap in the face of every single life lost on that mountain.

[caseysmom]

Communism, something that breaks people apart, is alive and active in Bejing. I find it bizarre that a city that promotes communisim was asked to sponosor games that is supposed to bring people together.

I am also OUTRAGED that China is going to have the torch brought to the summit of Everest and a communist Chinese flag placed at the top of Everest. THAT is a slap in the face of every single life lost on that mountain.

In that vein why have we allowed a communist country to buy United States Government securities, shouldn't you be more worried about that?

[K9soul]

Communism is just a form of government and philosophy. It's not inherently evil in itself, it is the people in power that can make any type of government or philosophy "bad" or corrupt. The same could be said for monarchy, socialism, republics and democracy. Do you really understand what the original idea of communist structure entails? It seeks to eliminate classes so that everyone is equal, so that there is no wealthy, middle class, lower class, and poverty. Not that China's communistic government achieves this, but it has nothing to do with the Olympics, the Olympics being a time, as mentioned before, when the differences in governments, faiths, cultures, etc. are to be set aside and they come together in the games in a celebration that is supposed to somewhat reenact the original Olympic games that began in Ancient Greece.

More about communism and its ideals can be found in some summarizing here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

A lot of people consider our capitalist economy and government to be evil and corrupt too.

[moosmom]

Okay, maybe I'm a little confused. Okay, so I'm ALOT confused. But it DOES burn my a$$ that they are planting a Chinese flag on Mount Everest, a ground which I consider sacred, afterall the people who died trying to summit to the top of the world.

[caseysmom]

Okay, maybe I'm a little confused. Okay, so I'm ALOT confused. But it DOES burn my a$$ that they are planting a Chinese flag on Mount Everest, a ground which I consider sacred, afterall the people who died trying to summit to the top of the world.

Mt. Everest is in Nepal and much closer to China than to us, why would you care? Actually China borders mt. everest.....

[moosmom]

I know all about Mt. Everest. It's the PRINCIPLE of the thing that gets my gord, that's all. I'll shut up now.

[caseysmom]

I know all about Mt. Everest. It's the PRINCIPLE of the thing that gets my gord, that's all. I'll shut up now.

You don't need to shut up now Donna, I am just interested in how you feel, it sounds like you know more about mt. everest than I do, I thought anyone reaching the top puts a flag up there, not sure why they are doing it now except maybe in honor of the olympics.

I am not defending china, they have lots of human rights issues that are horrible, one of them being Tibet. I just don't see the olympics as a venue to protest and thats just my personal opinion.

[kittycats_delight]

not sure why they are doing it now except maybe in honor of the olympics.

IMHO I don't think it has the least to do with with 'in honor of the olymics'. I think it is more a political statement to Tibet afterall Nepal is in Tibet. I think they are using something as 'powerful' as the coverage of the Olympics to say to Tibet 'We own you and we have the world's support too. So what are you gonna do about it?' The fact that the chinese flag would be places is a slap in the face and a kind of 'F You' to Tibet.

Just my personal opinion.

[RICHARD]

Mt. Everest is in Nepal and much closer to China than to us, why would you care? Actually China borders mt. everest.....

On one of the ridges you can technically have one leg in Nepal and the other in China. And depending how a man 'dresses' he can split his manhood between either.

Climbing to the summit from the north requires a 'passport' and that has to be purchased from the Chinese government. They have been very AH-ish to outsiders wanting to make that trip and the climb.

[jackie]

IMHO I don't think it has the least to do with with 'in honor of the olymics'. I think it is more a political statement to Tibet afterall Nepal is in Tibet. I think they are using something as 'powerful' as the coverage of the Olympics to say to Tibet 'We own you and we have the world's support too. So what are you gonna do about it?' The fact that the chinese flag would be places is a slap in the face and a kind of 'F You' to Tibet.

Just my personal opinion.

Nepal and Tibet are two countries. Nepal is not in Tibet.

[caseysmom]

Thanks for clarifying that Jackie, that is what I thought.