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    What Are Your Opinions On This?

    Family mourns dog shot to death
    Police: Penny was found in man's truck

    December 19. 2006 8:00AM

    Penny was a six-pound Jack Russell Terrier mix with a quiet bark and a tendency to shiver in the cold. She played well with children and cats and had a knack for falling asleep on her owner's pillow. On Friday, after wandering into a neighbor's yard, Penny was shot, killed and stuffed into a bag.

    The Hill Police Department arrested the neighbor, Michael Donato, later that night and charged him with driving while intoxicated. The police - who say they retrieved Penny's body from the back of Donato's truck - are still investigating and have not determined whether to charge Donato, 52, with any other crime, said Merrimack County Attorney Dan St. Hilaire, whose office would handle any resulting criminal investigation.

    The case, which involves the intersection of agricultural and criminal law, is hardly straightforward. It's a felony in New Hampshire to purposely beat, torture, whip or mutilate an animal. But state law also allows anyone to kill a dog that wanders onto private property and presents a threat to livestock. In addition, Penny's escape violated Hill's leash law. And Donato, who lives diagonally across from the MacArthurs on rural Currier Road, had called the local police at least once to complain that the dog had crossed onto his yard and posed a danger to his chickens, St. Hilaire said.

    Penny's owners, Kyle and Kirsten MacArthur, are heartbroken by Penny's death and frustrated by what they perceive as a lack of swiftness and sensitivity from law enforcement. After suspecting that Donato had killed Penny and watching him drive off in his truck, Kirsten MacArthur called the police and Kyle MacArthur tailed Donato himself. After the police arrested Donato in Bristol, authorities invited Kyle MacArthur to collect Penny's limp body but seemed disinterested in taking photographs or collecting other evidence, the MacArthurs said. As of yesterday, the police had not interviewed them about their dog, they said.

    The felony animal-cruelty crime carries a maximum sentence of 3½ to 7 years in prison, St. Hilaire said, but such sentences are rare.

    The system leans toward the prosecutors in such cases, said Peter Marsh, a Concord lawyer who has worked with the Legislature on animal-cruelty issues. The livestock-protection law is largely a vestige, he said.
    "Even if killing a neighbor's dog at some point, in colonial times, might have been acceptable, the day's long since passed," Marsh said.

    The Hill police, a part-time department, did not return phone calls yesterday. But state law prevented the police from charging Donato immediately with any crime that did not happen in the presence of an officer, St. Hilaire said. A charge beyond the DWI count would require an investigation and arrest warrant, the county attorney said.

    Donato could not be reached yesterday. No one answered the door at his home, a colonial at 316 Currier Road, but a man in a "Donato Tools and Hardware" shirt came to the door of the adjacent barn. With dogs barking in the background, the man said he did not wish to speak to a reporter and quickly closed the door.

    The MacArthurs moved to Hill from Penacook in May with Penny and their two children, Aidan, 1, and Dylan, nearly 3. Kirsten MacArthur, 27, grew up in Concord. Her husband, 25, grew up in Boscawen. They lived in Arizona as newlyweds but returned to New Hampshire after she witnessed a drive-by shooting in downtown Phoenix, where she worked as a drug-addiction counselor.

    "We came back to where we felt it was safer and smaller and simpler," she said.

    The MacArthurs bought Penny, a young Jack Russell-rat terrier mix, for $75 from an internet seller in February. The dog was dehydrated and underfed at the time, they said. A veterinarian guessed that Penny was a year old.

    A week ago, the police visited the MacArthurs to say that the Donatos had called to complain that Penny had run onto their property, Kirtsten MacArthur said.

    Friday, Kirsten MacArthur's mother, Kathy Tremblay of Bow, dropped by to watch the grandchildren while her daughter went shopping. She let Penny out unsupervised, then took Dylan for a walk in the woods after Kirsten returned. In the woods, Tremblay said, she heard a distant squeal that sounded as if it came from a wounded Penny.

    The MacArthurs grew increasingly concerned. Kyle MacArthur returned home from work after 4 p.m. and visited Donato, who at first said he didn't know anything about the dog, then suggested otherwise, MacArthur said. While walking home, MacArthur heard Donato start his truck. He climbed into his own SUV and followed Donato toward Bristol, where the police made the arrest for DWI.

    Several hours later, Hill's part-time police chief contacted Kyle MacArthur to retrieve Penny's body - stuffed inside a Morton White Crystal salt bag - from Donato's truck, MacArthur said.

    That night, after their children went to sleep, the MacArthurs buried Penny in their backyard, placing her in the grave alongside three plush toys - a stuffed bone, a small dog and a teddy bear that plays music when squeezed. As they tamped the dirt down to finish the burial, Kirsten MacArthur said, the weight set off the teddy bear's mechanism. The MacArthurs stood together in the gloom, with a tiny version of the R&B classic "Rescue Me" rising up from the earth.
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    I think it is extreemly sad that they lost their dog like that but they knew the neighbor complained about the dog and should have had better control of it.

    I know someone else let the dog out but that is not the point.. Put up a fence, put it on a lease but keep it away from the neighbors! NOT doing that cost the dog it's life and that is sad!

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    My opinion on this is that the whole thing is sad and unfortunate. I hope they take it as a lesson learned, though. I don't understand putting the dog into a bag and tossing it into the truck, that seems especially heartless. And, I don't think I could personally shoot a dog for trespassing, but, I don't know. If I had livestock, especially if the livestock was part of my livelihood, I might protect it in that way if I had to. Jack Russells do have a really high prey drive, so, it's perfectly reasonable to think the dog posed an immediate threat to the man's chickens. And, the dog's family moved there because of the "simpler" lifestyle. Unfortunately, that kind of swift, fatal action seems to be a part of that simple lifestyle. I would love to live out in the country, further away from suburbia, but, I can guarantee you I'd have a fence that would keep pets and children in and other animals and people out. There are too many things that can happen out in the country. They may be completely different threats than what you face living in the city, but, they are still present. And, until they change their law about people being able to shoot dogs that trespass and pose a threat to livestock, that man had every right to do that, whether it's morally right or not. And, whether they deem it a very unmodern, "colonial," thing to do, he was not breaking the law.

    I'm sorry for the family and for Penny. I really hope that, if they get another dog, they put a fence up.
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    The owner's need to take responsibility for their animal. I hate it when people let their animals wander. There's been more than enough occasions where I've wanted to take the collar off a dog and bring them to the shelter to teach the owner's a lesson in letting their dog roam. Our neighbor's skye terrier mix has been out in the middle of the road before and lucky for them the cars coming by stopped for it. The dog deserves an owner who cares. And, this guy lives across the road. If the dog had been hit by a car, the owner's would be out a dog just the same and they wouldn't have anybody to prosecute. At least the dog died quickly this way, imagine all the possible ways of a roaming dog dying. Hell, I bet they don't even know if the neighbor's use rodent poison, dog could've eaten that and died painfully.
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    I am really sorry that the family lost their dog, that is sad, but they should have kept the dog in their yard. I wouldn't shoot a dog unless it posed a threat, but if he had already complained, and he has livestock that could be harmed, he was within his right. They had been warned previously. As sad as it is for Penny, and the family, it's their responsibility to keep the dog contained =/.
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    I agree with you.

    Those owners need a swift kick in the a$$. It's an honor & a privalage to own a pet and I think they took it for granted.

    I think the whole situation is sad and the only one who truly suffered is poor Penny.

    RIP Penny.
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    I'm sorry Penny's mom's if we did not have all the facts. However, I beleave we all have had that on neighbor that just lets there dog run around off leash all the time without careing about how others feel. I for one just assumed you were that same neighbor who just let there dog run loose. If we are wrong, then I am sorry I made that assumtion.

    I do wonder though. What if one of our dog's got out of our backyards and wandered into a neighbors yard and the neighbor shot it claiming it was chaseing a chicken? How fare is that? What if your dog never did anything to his chickens, but the law says he has the right to. In my opinion the laws need to change. Starting with a huge fine for having your dog roaming off leash (something like $500) and then takeing away the law that allows you to shoot a dog on your property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspen and Misty
    I'm sorry Penny's mom's if we did not have all the facts. However, I beleave we all have had that on neighbor that just lets there dog run around off leash all the time without careing about how others feel. I for one just assumed you were that same neighbor who just let there dog run loose. If we are wrong, then I am sorry I made that assumtion.

    I do wonder though. What if one of our dog's got out of our backyards and wandered into a neighbors yard and the neighbor shot it claiming it was chaseing a chicken? How fare is that? What if your dog never did anything to his chickens, but the law says he has the right to. In my opinion the laws need to change. Starting with a huge fine for having your dog roaming off leash (something like $500) and then takeing away the law that allows you to shoot a dog on your property.

    Ashley
    We had a problem with our dogs digging under the fence/breaking boards to get to the neighbors rabbits. One time one of the dogs got under the fence for a fairly long time and manged to get the hutch open, he did not kill the rabbit though. But there was one of the hurricanes going on, and it came in that night, and the rabbit was dead in the morning. Whether or not it was my dog's fault...I don't know, but I wouldn't blame my neighbor for protecting his property. Not that I would be happy about it, but that's only fair. We have since put up a better fence and they have been deterred and it's been a few years since they've gone over that side.

    Now my neighbor's pit bull getting over here is another story...he's already done damage before, and still gets over every now and then. Technically we have the right to shoot that dog on sight based on the previous incident, but we are lenient and return him, usually.

    I agree with LilacDragon...I feel the same, everyone has completely switched sides. I would not be surprised if perhaps the JRT was chasing the chickens, if not killing them. It even says that the dog just gets let out, and the grandmother even went for a walk without checking to make sure the dog was in the yard. How insane is that? And when you get home...wouldn't you notice the dog's gone? *Not* 45 minutes later. Plus based on the facts it looks like the family consistantly let the dog run around loose.

    I wish the guy would only get a DUI. It may be a little wierd that he put the dog in a bag in the truck, but hey I've been drunk too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PennysOwner
    My mother heard Pennys moan at the time of death at exactly 3:53. My son and mom were literally right to the side of his property........WHAT IF THAT BULLET HAD HIT MY MOM OR MY SON????
    So you hear the moan but not a gunshot? Are you claiming he had a silencer?

    If the law already agrees he was in the wrong and arrested him since he appaerently admitted the dog wasn't a threat then what has to be changed? Are you saying that if a dog actually is killing one of my animals on my property I don't have the right to defend them, only call authorities so that they all will be dead by the time they get there? A loose dog has more rites than my own animals on my own proprty?

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    If the gunshot caused as much damage as posted, (sounds like a rifled slug from a shotgun) there would have been no "moan of death". As to the gunshot, it is frankly IMPOSSIBLE to silence a supersonic round from a weapon. If she was close enough to the incident to hear a 6 lb dog moan, the gunshot would still be echoing, and that noise would cover any noise the dog made.

    3:53? You're sure it wasn't 3:52? Or maybe 3:54?

    Again, regardless of the common practice in the area to let dogs roam free, dogs should be kept under control. There is plenty of wildlife in the area that would think a 6 lb dog would make a nice lunch.

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    Rest in Peace, Penny. I'm very sorry for your loss. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.


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    Geez, whether or not you are Penny's owner, this a public forum. Articles like these are debated on and argued over all the time, unfortunately you the owner had to stumble upon it, but nonetheless this is stuff we debate about. I think everyone here is sorry that you no longer have Penny, and we know how you feel, but also that you need to be more responsible with your animals. Anything can happen to them if they are not properly secured, and you can't really blame your neighbor for it. They also have to be trained with an electric fence-you can't just throw them out there on the first day.

    Maybe you have no idea what it is like to be on ONE INCOME with two children and tons of bills from all the home repairs we put on credit cards.....BUT WE TRIED OUR BEST.
    You said yourself you are a "certified mental health therapist" and that your husband gets up at 3:30 in the morning to go to work....that's two incomes. Please don't lie. I find it also fishy how your mother walked by and heard a moan if there was so much damage done-she should have her a gunshot, and then silence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PennysOwner
    MY DOG HAS NEVER HARMED OR ATTEMPTED TO HARM HIS ANIMALS!!!!!!!!! GET A POLICE REPORT FOR YOURSELF!!!!!!!!! WHAT NEEDS TO CHANGE, IS THE FACT THAT THIS MAN KILLED MY DOG WHEN SHE WASENT DOING ANYTHING WRONG. The felony law needs to be changed so that if someone kills a domestic pet FOR NO REASON, they are charged with a FELONY. My dog was not doing anything. I cannot tell you anything about how I feel about a dog that was attacking chickens, because that is not the case in this matter.

    As for the moan, I did not say I heard it. I said my mother heard it while walking behind his property with my son. According to the police report the man says he was standing inside his homes doorway when he fired the weapon. I am not sure of a silencer.
    I think you need to take a step back and look at what you are saying! I know that you are mourning the loss of your family pet but pick up a paper tomorrow and see how many articles you can find about someone being attacked by a dog running at large.

    If your dog had gotten loose ONCE, then maybe we would feel really bad for you. But all the facts that we have seen shows that your dog got out frequently. That, my dear, is the definition of irresponsible ownership.

    I AM a single mom and the rent for my apartment is 2/3rds of my monthly income. And yet my dog eats good food and has NEVER been outside off a leash in an unenclosed area.

    IMHO - dog owners who's dog threaten someone's person or property should be charged with a felony.

    You must not be a parent if you do not understand why we already have a new puppy.
    ARE YOU KIDDING!?!

    Dogs/puppies aren't toys to be replaced when they are broken! They are living, breathing creatures. When our family's rottweiler died of cancer, we waited months for the perfect dog for our family to come along.

    Sorry, but I think you are wrong on many levels here.

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    Twisterdog and Lilacsdragon, I just want to give your last two posts standing ovations.



    And Penny'sOwner... it's fine and your prerogative to not feel the need to give any source or back-up for your 'expert analysis'. Just don't expect anyone else to place any stock in a completely unverifiable assertion like that.

    You were actually home when Penny died and just "assumed" she was safe and contained, even though you did notice she was not going along for the walk which apparently was out of the ordinary for her. Even though you knew you were waiting around for someone on Craig'slist to give you free materials to even make it possible for her to really be contained you didn't bother to check if she was. You made no attempt to locate her or make sure she really was around. For that, you need to stop asserting your mother's negligence. Penny was not your mother's dog. Penny was not your mother's responsibility.



    Like I said before, just please please no excuses or waiting, make your puppy safe and secure. You owe it to both of your dogs. I think that would better serve Penny's memory than trying to pass legislation that protects those who flaunt the leash laws and punishes those who choose to defend their own animals from intruding predators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilacDragon
    ARE YOU KIDDING!?!

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