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Thread: It was only a matter of time, Cesar Milan being sued

  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    Somehow I have a hard time believing the allegations as presented in the article. Until the court case is resolved it is impossible to tell what the truth is, the article only states one side of the case.

    As far as the title of the thread goes, it was only a matter of time before someone sued him for something. After all, you want bucks? Get a lawyer and sue someone rich for something. (Not a comment on the legal profession in general)

    The method used requires a trainer/helper has to stay with the dog
    (any dog) while on the treadmill.The employee did not follow procedure.
    That's what the case is about.
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  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by IRescue452
    You should never, never put a dog on a treadmill with a choke collar anyway. A harness is best. And they should always be under supervision. I don't care who hooked the dog up to the treadmill but obviously they shouldn't have been working with dogs, and there probably was more than one person at this "training" facility who stood by while the dog was being hooked up or exercising.
    Yes but you really don't KNOW that's what happened, so how can you base a judgement without kowing all of the facts?

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    I'm not sure I understand some of you people. Sure a tired dog is a good dog, but when is it ok to chain a dog to a treadmill and force them to run until you are physically exhausted? How is this a training method? The dog can't do anything because it is exhausted: therefore it is trained? There are better ways to get rid of nervous energy. If you guys are thinking it was ok to chain it to a treadmill until it was "tired and good" then obviously it is ok to chain it to the back of a pickup truck and have it run until it behaves. When a dog needs some quick exercise before a session you want them a little tired, not dead on their feet, so you supervise and watch for when the dog shows signs of strain or of being tired. And the reason I say it was only a matter of time is not because he got sued, but because people are finding out his training methods are not the best.
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    I don't understand why you are taking one side of the story, printed in the paper, and taking it as gospel truth. You have no idea if it is true or not. The case hasn't gone to trial to hear both sides. It may not have happened like it was "alleged" at all. Nobody has all the facts in this case, so you are basing your judgement on the accusations printed in the paper about one side of the story. There are ALWAYS two sides, and as of right now, nobody except those involved know exactly what happened to that dog. I am not saying it did or did not happen like they claim, I don't know and neither do you. So making a snap judgement like that is unfair to the side not heard from.

    And comparing working a dog on a treadmill to tying it to the back of a truck is just silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IRescue452
    I'm not sure I understand some of you people. Sure a tired dog is a good dog, but when is it ok to chain a dog to a treadmill and force them to run until you are physically exhausted? How is this a training method? The dog can't do anything because it is exhausted: therefore it is trained? There are better ways to get rid of nervous energy. If you guys are thinking it was ok to chain it to a treadmill until it was "tired and good" then obviously it is ok to chain it to the back of a pickup truck and have it run until it behaves.
    There is always a person with the dog on the treadmill in his videos, someone there either walking with, or watching the dog carefully. That is far different than running a dog behind a truck where you cannot see it, where it ios easy for you to accellerate beyond the dog's running capability, and when you cannot judge how tired it is.

    If the employee wasn't watching over the dog, the employee screwed up. But I still maintain that we do not know all the facts of the case, and nopthing I have seen on the videos seems at all abusive. Mr. Millan obviously loves dogs - I have seen him get bitten - puncture wound, serious stuff, drew blood - and he did NOT react at all - because he didn't want to ruin the training session and let the dog think biting was going to get the dog what it wanted. THAT takes serious effort and commitment.

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